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To think Jamie's Italian failed due to being shit rather than brexit

232 replies

Ll81 · 11/02/2018 18:39

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5377965/Jamie-Olivers-Italian-restaurant-empire-racks-debts.html#article-5377965

Brexit is going to cause lots of problems for many years to come, but it's just a cheap shot blaming brexit. I've eaten in his Italian places twice and it was pretty shit food and bad value. Brexit or not I'm sure it wouldn't make much difference to his buisness this quickly.

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AveEldon · 12/02/2018 10:09

We went recently
Place was empty
Food was beyond bland and expensive

Much prefer Carluccios and Pizza Express

tumblrpigeon · 12/02/2018 10:15

Does anyone know why they make you wait even thought it’s near;y empty?

HariboIsMyCrack · 12/02/2018 10:17

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Bodicea · 12/02/2018 10:28

I had some lovely meals in Manchester a few years ago. I thought the pasta dishes were a bit different and more inventive than the norm.
Much nicer than pizza express whose pasta dishes beyond bland and standard.

Tinkofhousepan · 12/02/2018 10:29

I once ordered a chicken ceaser salad there and asked for only breast as it said on the menu breast and thigh. Was told they couldn't do that as it all came to them pre packaged. Never went back

WellThisIsShit · 12/02/2018 12:08

Wow such similar stories! Jamie’s marketing team really should take note that clearly key parts of their model just don’t work, brexit or no brexit. Listen.

The false queuing with visibly empty restaurant floors - no it doesn’t drive up a sense of popularity. It just pisses people off.

The meal quality, prepackaging and level of sourcing is all too low for its price point and clashes badly with the expected values of the JO brand.

Saltiness does not equal tastiness!

And as for serving inedible food then TELLING customers they are wrong?! It’s not Jamie’s school dinners, they don’t actually have to eat it. If the food is uncooked, or disgustingly ‘fresh’ straight from the chiller in the middle, don’t try and tell people they are wrong and it’s oh so yummy after all. And as for that ‘oh its meant to be al dente dontchaknooo’ patronising bollox, I’ve had that too. Yawn. I’ve eaten actual Italian food weekly for years (a previous job split between sites in uk and Italy). And I’m sure I’m not alone in having had cultural exposure beyond the uk.

Don’t assume you can shame your customers with pretend cultural superiority. It’s not the 1950s anymore. That kind of behaviour makes the whole restaurant look far worse than a quick and sincere apology and replacement with a meal the customer can eat.

It’s still a shame it’s failed though, as the first time I went to one, it was a really nice experience. Even though there was a ‘computer says no’ issue about seating, the actual food was great and the people very good too.

The lovely server had to do a lot of jiggers pokery as the computer system automatically assigned seats for maximum efficiently, and wouldn’t allow the humans any errr, humanity or choice! Sooo, no, no one could ask to sit in the sun because the computer said that section was too full! Which meant people were just turning around and leaving when they couldn’t sit outside/ near the big open windows.

Our problem was that we had our 6week baby with us but he wasn’t eating (!) so didn’t count as a seat on their system so computer wouldn’t give us a table with room for ds... although the restaurant was almost empty and there were loads of two seater tables that would have been great. And then the kicker... I couldn’t do steps if at all avoidable, recovering from major birth injuries, and half the restaurant was down some steps, and half wasn’t. But computer said we Must sit in the area down the steps.... for most efficient running of the restaurant! After much frustrated button pressing the lovely staff ended up pretending we were sitting somewhere else, and being served by someone else. Big tips left for all those involved at the end of your meal, for making it nice in spite of the system.

Remember that was the good experience!

Then other times I went were progressively worse until I just didn’t bother again. Now I have to watch money so much more carefully there’s no way such a mediocre and problem-riddled restaurant would get on the list.

SneakyGremlins · 12/02/2018 12:29

Much nicer than pizza express whose pasta dishes beyond bland and standard.

I like the pesto pasta they do Blush

Bettyfood · 12/02/2018 18:21

Who goes to Pizza Express for pasta? Clue's in the name.

Rebeccaslicker · 12/02/2018 18:22

Betty - you should try being prediabetic. I go for the bloody salad!!! Angry Blush

SneakyGremlins · 12/02/2018 18:23

I didn't realise it was against the law to eat pasta at Pizza Express Sad

Snoopy1612 · 12/02/2018 18:31

Never been but would highly recommend La Vita which is close to his Glasgow restaurant and fabulous, good prices and range on the menu, always busy!!

ronniebarkersauntie · 12/02/2018 18:34

I’ve never eaten at a Jamie’s Italian. But I did once eat at Jamie’s Diner in London and it was one of the most memorably awful meals I’ve ever eaten. Right up there with the Rainforest Cafe, but without the advantage of jungle critters to keep me company! Dirty plates and glasses, many menu items sold out, tasteless food. It’s not rocket science Jamie!!!

ApacheEchidna · 12/02/2018 18:50

Betty you do realise that there are some groups of families and friends where most-but-not-all people like/can tolerate/are in the mood for pizza and that therefore there will quite often be groups where some people are happy to order pizza and some are happy that there are other options?

I don't object to pizza myself but fundamentally it's just bread and cheese and I am keen for pizza far less frequently than the rest of the family.

singingsoprano · 12/02/2018 19:30

Rubbish service with poor quality food and it has an obsession with fennel. Yuk! Tried St. Albans and Aberdeen and both were awful.

JoandMax · 12/02/2018 19:37

Nothing to do with Brexit - we live outside the EU and there’s a few Jamie’s around. I can confirm they are just as rubbish over here and have a bad reputation!

BarbaraofSevillle · 12/02/2018 21:01

I'm not sure I'd pay restaurant prices for pasta and pesto. It's a zero effort CBA cooking proper food at home meal that, even if you are using fancy finest fresh pesto, must contain about 50 pence worth of ingredients a portion.

If I'm eating out, it needs to be something that requires lots of ingredients or is fiddly or time consuming to cook, otherwise I'd just have said meal at home.

TresDesolee · 12/02/2018 21:08

The first time I ate there, years ago, it was bloody lovely.

Then for about five years there were queues down the street and I don’t do queuing for restaurants.

Then I went with my kids to the Greenwich one and had the infuriating false wait bollocks - WHY WHY WHY, it was near empty. Food was fine but not as good as I remember. Decided never to go back because the make-them-wait stuff was unbearably annoying.

I like JO a lot and take no pleasure in the closures and job losses, but whichever muppet instituted the ‘make them wait for a table in an empty restaurant’ policy needs to have a think about what they’ve done. Treating your customers like idiots who can’t take in the evidence of their own eyes is sooo dumb.

peony2325 · 12/02/2018 21:23

Agree that the food is bland and overpriced but also that the most infuriating thing is being made to wait at the bar before being taken to the table. No, I do not want to stand in this tiny cordened-off area to buy an expensive cocktail. They even tried "your table isn't ready yet" with a group of about 20 of us when we had booked the table AND pre-booked the meals. Just ludricrous and we couldn't even all fit in the "bar" area.

And when the waiter tells you that dirty glasses are "supposed to be like that" you know you're onto a loser.

JaneEyre70 · 12/02/2018 21:28

We tried one in Islington on a weekend away, and I can't tell you how disappointing it was. We spent well over £120 on a very average meal I could have cooked better myself, and I was so dehydrated from all the salt. The local one in Cheltenham wasn't any better, and didn't last long at all. He made a bad error in choosing Cheltenham, as there are some very good local Italians. People won't go back, if the food and service isn't right, has fuck all to do with Brexit.

DoctorTwo · 12/02/2018 21:47

Jamie's Italian

No he fucking isn't. He's from Essex. So's the food.

As the wonderful BupCakes said, he's a fat tongued cunt.

Proseccoagain · 12/02/2018 22:05

Shockingly over-priced bad food, that was Birmingham Bullring. Never again. Prezzo and Ask much better. Jamie should be ashamed.

brokenshoes · 14/02/2018 14:14

And when the waiter tells you that dirty glasses are "supposed to be like that" you know you're onto a loser.

This happened to me as well, but with a side plate. It looked all greasy as if it had already been used. The waiter said "it was supposed to be like that" and replaced it with an equally greasy-looking plate Envy

snash12 · 14/02/2018 14:36

Brexit will be blamed for everything bad happening in the coming years, whether true or not!

Jamie Oliver’s restaurants are so overpriced, the food is mediocre at best. I actually felt quite glad when I read that article. I hope they close the one near me and put something else there!

Imacurtaintwitcher · 14/02/2018 14:50

YANBU - went once as it was the closest restaurant to the cinema.

7pm & our Carbonara was served with Penne pasta - when questioned- they didn’t have any Linguine or Spaghetti Pasta.

Hated it - never again

Fosterdog123 · 14/02/2018 14:54

A fat tongued cunt? Wow, that's really uncalled for and plain bloody nasty.

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