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To think that this sum is super simple

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PeerieBreeks · 11/02/2018 08:26

and can't understand how so many people on Facebook have it so completely wrong (and can justify it to themselves).

Without adding your reasoning, tell me what you think the answer is.

To think that this sum is super simple
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BeyondThePage · 11/02/2018 09:47

There is still the problem of the $10 loss.

he has not made a $10 loss.

He made 2 separate transactions - both of which were profitable. The fact that someone ELSE made a $10 profit meantime does not affect his balance sheet.

BuckingFrolicks2 · 11/02/2018 09:48

10 dollars

FatBottomedGal · 11/02/2018 09:48

I don’t understand how people are getting 20 Blush

First transaction: 10 up
Second transaction: 10 down (now no profit)
Third transaction: 10 up

Overall 10 up

DadDadDad · 11/02/2018 09:50

bakingaddict (and ThreeHours) - there is no loss; you can't use the same transaction twice to calculate a profit or loss. He bought for $60 and sold for $70 - profit $10. Those transactions have therefore been accounted for, and you can only look at new transactions, ie bought for $80 and sold for $90, for another $10 profit.

PeerieBreeks · 11/02/2018 09:51

There is no $10 loss. A loss happens when you sell something for less than you bought it for. That didn't happen.

There is a point where he spends 10 more than he had just received, but it's not a loss.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/02/2018 09:51

Surely we need to know how much he started with to know what he made? No! Even if he had no money and had borrowed $80 on the Friday morning and paid it back he still would have had $20 profit on Monday morning.

Had 80 in hand , spent 60, his return was 70, profit 10, overall holding now 90.

Spent 80, return was 90, overall holding 100, pay off debt of 80, left with $20 clear profit (assuming no interest on the original loan)

Abra1de · 11/02/2018 09:51

I thought it was $20.

BeyondThePage · 11/02/2018 09:52

He had the POSSIBILITY of a $30 profit.

He sold and re-bought, so MISSED out on that, but still made $20 overall.

He never lost $10

CecilyP · 11/02/2018 09:52

Surely we need to know how much he started with to know what he made.

No it’s the same whatever he started with. He is still $20 up!

frankchickens · 11/02/2018 09:52

AIBU not give a flying fig about this and all similar twaddle on facebook etc?

Will it satisfy OP and all other smug folk if I just admit I am thick?

Bookaboo · 11/02/2018 09:54

I've looked at it again and still get the same answer!

He makes $10 profit when he sells for $70, but this is cancelled out when he buys for $80 because it's costing him another $10.

So when he sells the last time for $90 he is really only $10 better off.
To me, this answers the question of how much he made "in the end".

I agree that it is an issue of comprehension and interpretation, as these problems are designed to be so that everyone disagrees and argues about the answer Grin

DadDadDad · 11/02/2018 09:54

No fatbottomed there are four transactions.

After first transaction $60 down and a horse up
Second transaction now $10 up and no horse
After third transaction $70 down and a horse up
After fourth transaction $20 up and no horse.

Profit and loss accounting pairs up the transactions: first two transactions $10 profit, last two transactions $10 profit. You can't also pair up the second and third transactions.

Slartybartfast · 11/02/2018 09:54

$10

Slartybartfast · 11/02/2018 09:55

sorry, $10 profit

Bookaboo · 11/02/2018 09:56

AIBU not give a flying fig about this and all similar twaddle on facebook etc?

No, but once you've joined in you're committed Grin

DadDadDad · 11/02/2018 09:57

frankchickens - perfectly reasonable not to care about this problem, but you better hope the people who run your bank (or any other business you use for that matter) care because keeping track of balances and profit and loss is vital there.

Threehoursfromhome · 11/02/2018 09:57

Yeah, I think I have added a step in the mid point - he has $70 and needs $80 [therefore must have borrowed $10 which needs repayment before net profit can be calculated ] but that's not stated.

LinoleumBlownapart · 11/02/2018 09:57

He spent $60 in the first place, then he got it back and profit of $10. Then he spent $80 so minus his profit he's out of pocket by $70. Then he gets $90 back so he's profited $20.

IShouldGoToBed · 11/02/2018 09:58

This thread is really really really annoying me!!!!!! I don't know why! But it's like running fingernails down a blackboard! Need to get a grip!!! And stop reading it!!!!!!

Aaaagggghhh! It's $20, he needs a different past time than selling and buying horses, and needs business advice cos horses are worth far more than he's buying and selling them for Smile

Bookaboo · 11/02/2018 10:00

It's pissing me off that I've wasted part of my Sunday morning on it too IShouldGoToBed

thegreylady · 11/02/2018 10:00

I made it 20 profit

frankchickens · 11/02/2018 10:00

but you better hope the people who run your bank (or any other business you use for that matter) care

Hopefully they are doing something more productive than pillocking about on facebook or arguing with strangers about who is the cleverest.

DadDadDad · 11/02/2018 10:02

Hopefully they are doing something more productive than pillocking about on facebook or arguing with strangers about who is the cleverest.

Well, I work in a financial institution, but it's a Sunday morning and I can enjoy myself arguing with strangers over this if I wish. Grin

wakemeupbefore · 11/02/2018 10:02

YABU for 'super' simple wording.

[boak]

Ifailed · 11/02/2018 10:02

It'll be the "3 Diners Riddle" next. Smile