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To wonder how we got having a baby years ago.

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IsItSummerYet2018 · 08/02/2018 17:35

This is totally light hearted.
But reading some people on other sites/ threads/forums saying about things for example : perfect prep machine for milk.
Saying how they couldn't live without it. When its 3am boiling up a kettle is a faff etc.
Don't get me wrong it is and time Consuming when you have a crying baby and sleep deprived.
However they haven't been around forever and everyone just got on with it before hand.

please note I'm not Having a dig it's just a general wondering

Can anyone think of anything else that we have now but didn't before... But just can't live without?

OP posts:
sourpatchkid · 08/02/2018 21:56

What evidence do you have that she meant it nastily? I think you may have perceived a personal attack where there wasn't one, honestly.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 08/02/2018 21:56

I agree too. I don't see why people are being so critical of that comment. But I especially feel like that because of our experience of having a baby recently, when you're expected to have all the mod cons. DD wasn't very well when she was born and lost a lot of weight, and our HV insisted we needed to 'top up' her breastfeeds with 120ml of formula every two hours. We were made to feel that this was vital. So there was no chance to relax about breastfeeding - it had to be something you could measure.

10 months on, DD still rarely drinks more than 120ml of formula in one go, and never in a million years would she drink a litre and a half of milk in a day. She is healthy and strong and only just under average weight for her age.

I do think that if the HV had been trained to have more respect for breastfeeding and less for technology, she might not have set such idiotic targets.

JJPP1234 · 08/02/2018 21:57

Nothing about it notgered me personally but she sounded smug and it wasnr appropriate to the thread. Breasts are one thing which have always been around

TheEagle · 08/02/2018 22:00

The OP mentioned the Perfect Prep machine and someone made a joke at the expense of that machine.

It was relevant and lighthearted but often on MN you can’t joke about BF or FF without it getting weird.

JJPP1234 · 08/02/2018 22:01

Yeah so maybe she should watch what shes saying. Nasty comments from nasty people! Thats all i have to say on it.

TheEagle · 08/02/2018 22:03

So she shouldn’t have made a joke? Confused

SciFiFan2015 · 08/02/2018 22:07

I went back and checked the post. Noticed the emoji. Had Siri read it to me (so I knew which one it was). It's a smirk! I said in my post earlier that I thought it was funny and it made me smirk.

The last reader of any written word is the final author. So meaning can change. Now I'm off to check the dictionary meaning of smirk. I think it relates to being silly. Probably more to it though!

I'll stick with thinking it was funny and meant with no harm. I'm an optimist.

OlennasWimple · 08/02/2018 22:15

I read YetAnotherEmma's post as a joke, I don't understand why so many people are getting snippy with her. Though so people are always on the lookout for ways to get offended, so I guess this was one for today

TheFirstMrsDV · 08/02/2018 22:18

but she sounded smug
Smug towards a piece of machinery. Confused

Breasts prepare milk perfectly.
They do.
That isn't anti formula feeding.

People talking about having breasts that feed babies isn't the same as saying 'YOU ARE A SHIT MOTHER IF YOU DOn'T BREASTFEED YOU BASTARDS'

Just in case anyone was confused about that.

TheFirstMrsDV · 08/02/2018 22:19

Yeah so maybe she should watch what shes saying.
You sound ridiculous

halfwitpicker · 08/02/2018 22:22

God let the milk in the bra comment go

Battleax · 08/02/2018 22:31

Yeah so maybe she should watch what shes saying. Nasty comments from nasty people! Thats all i have to say on it.

All I'm gathering from this bizarre exchange is that you have issues about BFing JJPP1234.

I can't see any smugness or nastiness in the original remark. It was clearly a joke.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 08/02/2018 22:40

She didn't sound smug.

Sparklingbrook · 08/02/2018 22:47

I could sort of understand the comment touching a nerve if for whatever reason BF didn't work out. Breasts are indeed the perfect prep machines.

Most people start off with Perfect Prep machines in their bra after all.Unfortunately mine started malfunctioning not long after, overheating/ being intermittent etc and the knobs on the front started falling off. Sad Quite a few experts had a look to see what the problem was but it wasn't to be. So FF it was.

storynanny · 08/02/2018 23:24

I remember being told to turn the bottle teats inside and rub them with salt before putting them in the milton for sterilising

Graphista · 09/02/2018 00:00

Sorry - very long

Dd 17 next week. SO much has changed I won't have a clue when it comes to her having babies.

Via friends and family what is new to me that wasn't around when dd was a baby:

Perfect prep - I didn't bottle feed until dd was almost 9 months (NOT a judgment on ff mum's just what I happened to do, didn't take Emma's comment as smug either just funny) but when I did it was still deemed ok to prep 24 hrs of bottles ahead of time and store at back of fridge. I tried a bottle warmer but found it REALLY slow and faffy, much easier to stick it in a jug of just boiled water, I took a flask of boiled water to bed for her one night feed. The one thing I REALLY envy is ready made milk cartons. When I saw a friend use one on a day out...oh I'd have LOVED them when dd was a baby.

Way more choice in bought baby/toddler food/snacks now. At home happy to make my own but when out and about, especially if you ended up out longer than planned, it was a pain poor dd often ended up getting really boring things like plain bread rolls

Soft play - these were fairly new when dd hit around age 2 where we were at the time - total godsend for wet weekends

Nappy genie - wish I'd had one they were still not the norm and quite expensive when I had dd.

Chicco next to me - I'd have LOVED this, we co slept but ex was a starfish and this would have made me less stressed

Baby monitors are much better now the technology has really come on. Ours (which was a good brand and model) wasn't very sensitive and sometimes just didn't pick up at all. No video just sound and not a great range.

Suction bowls/plates - again would have been great to find really good stubborn ones dd was a bugger for just flinging when she'd decided she was finished

Slings seem better now, less back breaking.

Bouncy chairs that vibrate/bounce without mum having to operate 😂 I swear I had one leg more muscular than another for a while due to using my foot to bounce dd to settle her when she was teething (it was the ONLY thing that bloody worked)

Something I don't understand - the constant changing of prams/buggies. Modern ones are suitable for wide age ranges yet mum's now seem to sell and buy a new one every 6 months? Is that just a thing where I live though I wonder. Also there's such a huge choice that it's bewildering. I had a travel system when dd was tiny but really it was a waste of money for the price. Best was umbrella buggy from mothercare I got for a holiday was brilliant and used loads - cost £15!
Dds "pram" thinking about it was probably 1/3 of the size of mine - she was 5lbs heavier at birth! 😂

"I brought a pram in 'last seasons' colours - pure snobbery round prams these days" yes! I don't get it at all!

I'm 45 when I was a baby my parents:

Used terry nappies
Prepped bottles LONG in advance and used bottles that had been at room temp or warmer for hours if out and about. Sterilising was either boiling in a pan for hours or using the "modern" Milton fluid (when they were flush)
Used a silver cross pram - mum walked MILES as they'd no car and there was no way she could've got it on a corporation bus 😂
Weaned around 6 weeks I think (mainly porridge)
Brought me home from the hospital in a carry cot loose in granda's car
Did blw without realising - they just gave me whatever food they were eating without doing more than maybe mash it a wee bit, but certainly there are pics of me holding and chewing on various bits of vegetables inc raw potato
Didn't buy toys especially for teething but gave me wooden spoons and similar to gnaw on.
When bro was born when I was 2 I was bumped out the pram he went in and I was in reins - attached to the pram 😱
I slept in same room as my parents but not same bed until almost a year old, but that was because they were living with my grandparents and there wasn't anywhere else to put me! 5 adults, 2 DC (my uncles) and a baby in a 2.5 bed tenement. Also drowned under a mountain of sheets and blankets.
That reminds me - there's pics of my grans after I was born and she's still got a wringer and washboard!
Dad wasn't at any of the births as he was working, when my sister was born he wasn't even in the country (army) mum had one of her sisters come stay to watch me and bro when she went into labour so she had nobody with her at the actual birth for that one.

As I was the eldest my siblings and cousins got it even worse as I was around giving them food far too young, flinging toys at them, trying to give them bottles etc unless an adult spotted and dived in with a "nooooooooo" 😂

"Sometimes I wonder how we managed 35 years ago without ovulation monitors, pregnancy POAS, scans, diagnostic blood tests, waterbirths etc" my mum had no idea she was pregnant with me till almost 4 months (this also meant a VERY hastily arranged wedding), similar with brother, but struggled to conceive sis (there may have been higher powers giving her a hint there) but this was pre Ivf etc and she was just told to "keep trying" and obviously it happened eventually.

"I think it’s made out as if you need a billion things for a baby when you don’t." Definitely, personally i found baby bath, sling, mini food processor thingy, bottle warmer - all a waste of money.

"My Gran had 12 kids, she used Terry nappies and washed all clothes and nappies by hand in the tin bath tub outside." One of my granda's was the eldest of 14 (that lived) the whole family in one room outside toilet etc - cannot imagine it must have been SO hard.

KNain - yes there's hardly any pics of myself, siblings and cousins but THOUSANDS of pics AND vIdeos of our DC.

Onlyoldontheoutside · 09/02/2018 00:11

Remote control for television,ok so we only had 3chanels but still.
On the down side I have lots of digital pictures of DD and I am now selecting some to get hard copies of as these are the only ones that will keep well for future generations.

Caroelle · 09/02/2018 00:18

I loved breast feeding for hours, just enjoying doing nothing. And I read a lot of books and listened to the radio. I had a car seat, a monitor, a breast pump, disposable nappies, cotton wool, a baby bath, pushchair and bouncy chair for my son as a new born, he is now 22. Bottles when used were boiled to sterilise as were teething toys, food was mashed with a potato masher or put in the blender. It was all fairly basic. However we did seem to suddenly acquire a billion red, blue and yellow plastic toys, made in China, sold by the Early Learning Centre. We had to build an extension for that lot!

tillytrotter1 · 09/02/2018 00:18

Someone wondered how we managed to breast-feed without a TV or a phone!!!! We were abroad and there was World Service on the radio, I recall feeding my 9 month old at around 6am, listening to the football results, I knew that my team needed to draw to get promoted to the, then, Division 1. I knew that they were playing Blackburn away, heard Blacknurn nil........ baby went up in the air, I didn't know for days that we'd actually won.

There was a life before modern gadgets, your children will have stuff that you can't yet imagine.

LunchBoxPolice · 09/02/2018 00:50

Ondansetron. I wouldn't have got through HG without it.

Evelynismycatsformerspyname · 09/02/2018 06:03

Slings certainly aren't knew. My mother showed me a picture of her mother being carried in one in about 1925

Evelynismycatsformerspyname · 09/02/2018 06:04

New not knew

TheDailyMailIsADisgustingRag · 09/02/2018 06:20

I have a two week old who is struggling to latch on to my ‘not-so-perfect prep machines’! So, I couldn’t do without a breast pump. Or, I could, but I’d probably have to kiss goodbye to any hopes of breastfeeding him and also would get mastitis!

Tv is my lifeline, while I’m tied to the baby and breast pump. It also entertains the toddler Blush.

Car seats is my sensible answer though. My friend’s mum used to put a seatbelt round a Moses basket. This, apparently, was considered safe 30 odd years ago.

DryHeave · 09/02/2018 06:20

I keep my wet wipe warmers in my bra 😏

(Seriously though, I stuff a few down there before I undress the baby - takes the edge off!)

TheDailyMailIsADisgustingRag · 09/02/2018 06:21

Oh, clever, @dryheave! Nobody likes a cold cloth on their bum.

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