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Use of the word "hence"

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CheapSausagesAndSpam · 04/02/2018 18:11

I find it really irritating for some reason...I see it on here a LOT but never hear anyone use it!

Are people using it incorrectly and that's why it annoys me?

"I had no money, hence I went to my Mum's to ask for help."

"She's a CF, hence I wanted her out of my life."

And so on ....

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Megsmcgoo · 04/02/2018 18:37

A friend of mine uses it ALL THE TIME. It drives me mad, she does actually use it when trying to defend her bevaiour so perhaps that’s why!

borlottibeans · 04/02/2018 18:38

I have recently discovered that 'hence' is maths exam code for "you should be able to easily work this out from your answer to the first part of this question, you spanner." Now I just feel discouraged every time I see it.

iklboo · 04/02/2018 18:39

It's excruciating.

Eolian · 04/02/2018 18:42

OP, you may not like the word, but all the examples on this thread (apart from the appalling 'hence because') are perfectly correct.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 04/02/2018 18:45

I just noticed I just put a greengrocer's apostrophe on a thread about grammar. Oh the shame...

BuckingFrolicks2 · 04/02/2018 18:49

I hate it because people don't use it verbally but only when writing, so there's something selfconsious about it that falls

iklboo · 04/02/2018 18:50

@GhoulWithADragonTattoo - say you were being ironic & face it out Grin

MyOwnFingernails · 04/02/2018 19:13

I like and use 'hence'. Also 'not withstanding'.

BeagleBurger · 04/02/2018 20:29

It's when people say "hence why" that I get worked up.

"On route" is another pet peeve.

bringbackfonzi · 04/02/2018 20:36

I think it should be used only with a noun i.e. 'hence my question' is right; 'hence my coming here' is also right (gerund verb 'coming' used as a noun); but 'hence I came here' etc is wrong.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 04/02/2018 20:41

What about 'whence'?

'From whence' drives me potty.

Hence is one of those words which people overuse to make themselves seem intelligent, when they aren't. Like using 'ourselves' or 'yourself' when they mean us or you.

missymayhemsmum · 04/02/2018 20:50

Often used instead of 'so' to disguise/ defend a possible non-sequitur.

ie there was chocolate in the fridge, hence I am unavoidably 3 pounds heavier than yesterday.

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 04/02/2018 20:56

THANK YOU! Miss

Eolian...see Not always correct on this thread!

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babyccinoo · 04/02/2018 21:13

"hence because"

That really hurts the eyes! Is there a word for when bad grammar hurts your brain? including my own

StealthPolarBear · 04/02/2018 21:15

Agree with ghoul

OutyMcOutface · 04/02/2018 21:17

You aren't accustomed to it hence you find it grating. It's commonly used where I come from, hence I don't tend to notice it much. Hence hence hence!

TeenTimesTwo · 04/02/2018 21:34

Yes, in maths.
Show
Hence or otherwise show

See also 'trivial' which in maths might mean 2 pages of working out, but nothing particularly spectacular occurs. Useful in degrees exams when you can't prove something 'it is trivial to show that .... hence ...' (Which can sometimes be got away with because the people marking it do think it is trivial). well, made me feel better about the exam anyway.

pasbeaucoupdegendarme · 04/02/2018 21:39

I like it, hence I use it.

Agree with pps that “hence why” is really irritating.

I’m shocked, OP, that you were taught to use simpler language if there was a choice. That really is “dumbing down”.

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 04/02/2018 23:01

Pas no, it's not...I meant within writing. If you choose "the big word" or in your case the wrong word, it sounds bad.

"Hence" isn't correct in your example..."so" would be correct.

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CheapSausagesAndSpam · 04/02/2018 23:04

Found this explanation

Just like “thus”, “hence” is an adverb, not a conjunction, so it cannot join two independent clauses (note that it is more common to omit the commas around “hence” than after “thus” in formal writing):

They are not satisfied with our work. Hence(,) we must prepare a new proposal.
They are not satisfied with our work; hence(,) we must prepare a new proposal.
They are not satisfied with our work, hence we must prepare a new proposal.
“Hence” used in this sense is rather uncommon, and such usage persists mostly in specialized fields, such as scientific writing.

There is, however, another, more common meaning of “hence”, which substitutes a verb but is not a clause in itself and is always separated from the rest of the sentence by a comma:

Our server was down, hence the delay in responding.
The chemicals cause the rain to become acidic, hence the term “acid rain”.
As you can see, “hence” substitutes phrases such as “which leads to” or “which is the reason of”.

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CheapSausagesAndSpam · 04/02/2018 23:07

"I like it" is an independent clause...as is "I use it"

So hence is incorrect.

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StealthPolarBear · 05/02/2018 06:00

No it's plain English. More complex words should only be used if they genuinely add something. It's good writing style.

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 05/02/2018 06:49

Who are you answering there Stealth? What do you mean "No it's plain English"?

No what?

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StealthPolarBear · 05/02/2018 08:08

Sorry I was answer pas beaucoup's point about dumbing down. Didnt realise you'd posted again

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 05/02/2018 08:11

Oh sorry...I could have worked that out if I'd read back a bit!

You hit the nail on the head Stealth.

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