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To think that the UK's Private Police Force is worrying?

15 replies

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 03/02/2018 04:39

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5346699/First-private-police-force-caught-400-criminals.html

Sorry it's a Daily Fail link.

Why do I find this worrying? I'm not articulate enough to explain...but I do!

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nextDayDelivery · 03/02/2018 04:52

I think it's fine. It seems like an effective method of policing 'high volume crimes'. They will be operating within the law.

Why are you apologising for linking to the Daily Mail? I assume it's where you got your information from. It seems childish to read the news there, link to it and then have a 'humorous' name for it.

Pinkbutton85 · 03/02/2018 05:29

@nextdaydelivery

‘Daily Fail’ is a well known nickname for the crappy news source..

Tessliketrees · 03/02/2018 05:35

I agree it's worrying. More than worrying.

Things that we have to rely on to function as a society should not be in the hands of private enterprise. It's a shit show when it's something like rail services or even communications, it's even worse when it's something design to protect people.

@nextdaydelivery The Daily Mail is a shit rag that lots of people avoid giving traffic to. Hence the apology.

Longdistance · 03/02/2018 05:41

Also known as the Daily Snail for its slow news.

Maybe it’s a good thing, or maybe not. There’s talk of Guardian Angels appearing in London. The police can’t be everywhere, and they’re overstretched as it is (I have friends in the force so know well enough) I can see why an outside body could be seen with trepidation.

nextDayDelivery · 03/02/2018 05:47

Yet, despite "avoiding giving it traffic", so many clearly get their news from this "crappy" source, including the OP. That's the confusing part.

Is she apologising for reading it?

Trueheart1 · 03/02/2018 05:50

....directly from Latin privilegium "law applying to one person, bill of law in favor of or against an individual," in the post-Augustine period "an ordinance in favor of an individual, privilege, prerogative," from privus "individual" (see private (adj.)) + lex (genitive legis) "law" (see legal (adj.)).

Privilege means "private law" that is what this is. Absolutely horrific to bring in a two tier system that favours the rich. If this grows we have no safeguards that they will not just do what is in the best interests of the clients.

Also might mean that poor people do not have access to justice for small crimes committed against them.

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 03/02/2018 06:01

NextDay...no "she" isn't apologising for reading it.

I tried to find another source but all mentions are from 2012.

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CheapSausagesAndSpam · 03/02/2018 06:02

True..yes...gated communities and jumped up security guards keeping the poor in their place...but with all the rights of the actual police.

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nextDayDelivery · 03/02/2018 06:12

What's wrong with gated communities? I live in one and there's a guard too. They don't ask to see your bank balance before letting you in, they check you have business there. It has nothing to do with "keeping the poor in their place" and everything about keeping private property private.

Do you apply the same logic to people with property alarms? How about alarms linked to a central control?

This "private force" will have no more powers than you or I do.

Squeegle · 03/02/2018 06:17

Of course it’s worrying- a police force that is paid for and is looking for profits. Logical conclusion is that it can be bought by highest bidder. Not what a country needs.

makeourfuture · 03/02/2018 06:25

Tory dystopian Britain.

More Judge Dredd than Dixon of Dock Green.

user1497863568 · 03/02/2018 17:57

Well someone has to protect the criminal class.

safariboot · 03/02/2018 18:21

Yes, I think it's worrying, because its interests will not align with the interests of the general public or even those who pay for the 'private police'.

It is a basic principle of British policing, established with the foundation of the Metropolitan Police in 1829, that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them. Yet for such a private police force their profit comes from the "visible evidence". It is in their financial interests to convict the most people for the worst offences for the least money, and not in their interests to reduce crime levels, to take on cases where an acquittal is plausible, or to give a damn whether the people convicted are actually guilty or not. If the private police feel they can get away with trumping up charges, planting evidence, and framing people, they will.

We've seen in recent-weeks high-profile examples of court cases collapsing or being overturned because the regular police hushed up evidence that would count against a prosecution. I believe this to be the tip of a very big iceberg, that police up and down the country are doing this routinely, that innocent people are sitting in prison cells because the evidence that would have acquitted them has been unlawfully hidden or destroyed. And that's the taxpayer-funded police; it will only be an even greater issue for private business.

Toomanytealights · 03/02/2018 18:29

I think our current police system is riddled with corruption.I have very little faith in it.

Toomanytealights · 03/02/2018 18:30

Not sure what I think of this though.

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