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AIBU?

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GlitterUnicornsAndAllThatJazz · 02/02/2018 14:36

...When someone says they call a spade a spade/say what they think/don't mince their words/any variation on this, 9 times out of 10 they are a twat?

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Myddognearlyatethedeliveryman · 02/02/2018 14:40

Someone told me today I am very black and white - would this be classed as similar to the op? For the record I am def not a twat!!

FittonTower · 02/02/2018 14:47

Yep. Twat. Like people who "say what they're thinking because they're not two-faced". It's not two faced to not immediately blurt out what ever cruel remark was passing through your head at any given moment.

Trinity66 · 02/02/2018 14:50

Alot of times yes but not always. But yeah, it's like the "no offense but" "I don't mean to be rude but" lines Grin

UpstartCrow · 02/02/2018 14:51

Yanbu. Its like men who start off with 'what it is, is' and then complain when you treat them like a chancer.

SumThucker · 02/02/2018 14:53

Absolutely. Someone I know does it, "I tell it like it is, me...", cue twattish comment.

Trashboat · 02/02/2018 14:54

Agree.

'I just say it as it is' = I'm a rude fucker.

'I'm like like marmite, you either love me or hate me'

Pretty much guarantee I will be in the 'hate' camp

mikeyssister · 02/02/2018 15:10

Not necessarily. I would say I call a spade a spade, but I would never deliberately hurt anyone's feelings.

Mrsdraper1 · 02/02/2018 15:11

They are in the same bracket as those who say when you meet them...
oh I'll never remember that, I'm rubbish with names.
Twats

mikeyssister · 02/02/2018 15:11

And I hate - I don't mean to be rude but.........................

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 02/02/2018 15:12

It depends on the context. If someone is struggling to express something ‘delicately’ to avoid offending me instead of being to the point I might tell them to call a spade a spade and just spit it out.

mikeyssister · 02/02/2018 15:12

@Mrsdraper1 - I really, really struggle with names and faces. I have had people tell me there name when I'm paying 100% attention and within 20 seconds I've forgotten it.

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 02/02/2018 15:15

I’m bad with names too, but good at remembering people if you see what I mean. I would never say ‘oh I won’t remember that’ when introduced the first time but I’ve found it best to be upfront when I meet them again and just say ‘I’m sorry, I can’t remember your name’ and let them tell me again.

BackforGood · 02/02/2018 15:17

Not necessarily.
Recently my colleague (who originally hails from Yorkshire) told me she counted me as an 'honary Northerner' due to the fact that sometimes at Team meetings I translate all the nonsense strategy speak into English, for clarity for everyone.
Sometime they report back from high level meetings and it's like watching WA1 - which is fine as a comedy half hour, but a complete nonsense in a work environment where we are all understaffed and just need things to be clearly spelled out.
I was very proud Grin

Mrsdraper1 · 02/02/2018 15:18

Just don't tell people you are rubbish with names in a tone, then it'll be fine.
There's loads of times I have forgotten names and as I get older it gets worse but.....you can bluff it if you've forgotten and there's no need to say it!

Mrsdraper1 · 02/02/2018 15:19

It just sounds like you can't be bothered to even hear what the name is

Clandestino · 02/02/2018 15:19

I hate the phrase. I know I'm pretty direct but I don't advertise it that way. It's not something to be somehow extremely proud of or anything, just the way you are.
I would admit that I may not come across as the nicest person in the world sometimes but I'm not rude or cruel for the sake of it and am capable of telling a white lie when needed.

ItsNiceItsDifferentItsUnusual · 02/02/2018 15:59

I agree. It's like they're making a virtue of meanness and/or rudeness.

HildaZelda · 02/02/2018 16:28

"I speak as I find" "Oh I've just got no filter me" - No, you're just bloody rude.

MavisPike · 02/02/2018 16:31

I think the worse people are the ones that cant take it in return and accuse you of being rude

QuiteLikely5 · 02/02/2018 16:40

I prefer people to call a spade a spade!

Why is it rude?

toolonglurking · 02/02/2018 17:01

Oh my god I couldn't agree with you more!!
I absolutely hate people who seem to think that can say whatever they like because they preface it with 'I say it like I see it' or similar.
They are dicks.

SwarmOfCats · 02/02/2018 17:12

MrsDraper - I have diagnosed short term memory problems and usually tell people that I have terrible trouble remembering names/I might need to ask them to remind me. Nobody seems to take offence!

It’s usually the people who announce “I call a spade a spade, me” about themselves who turn out to be twats. I have no problem with honesty, but the people who announce their lack of filter often seem to think the pre-warning gives them free reign to act like complete dickwaffles.

mikeyssister · 05/02/2018 16:09

My MIL always says "I'm entitled to my opinion", the only reply to which is "I didn't ask for it" and breathe.

Funnily I can usually remember children's names, I just struggle with adults. There's no real reason for it either. I repeat a name about 20 times in my head but it doesn't help. And if I see people out of context it's a nightmare because I can't remember where I know them from to have any hope of remembering their name.

Cavender · 05/02/2018 17:34

It’s quite possible to be direct and polite.

Interestingly people who say that they “speak as they find” are often much less happy to be told that I find them rude and unpleasant.

TreacleFarl · 05/02/2018 17:44

YANBU someone I know delights in saying 'I don't miss and hit the wall' She sees it as a bage of honour to be loud and sour about everything. Yet when asked one to one about something the 'I say what I want attitude disappears in a flash.
Hmm

I think it's old bullying tactics and it's bullshit. Like pp said, you can be direct and kind.

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