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Doctors appts as rare as hen's teeth (as my granny would say!)

72 replies

punicorn · 01/02/2018 17:36

AIBU? I just want a Drs appt for my DS. Rang surgery this afternoon for a fairly non-urgent appt and was given a date THREE WEEKS AWAY!! Took it but after I had put the phone down I thought to myself 'No Way'! Rang back and was given an 'out of hours' appt at another surgery 3 miles away at 7.30pm one evening next week. Checked with DH to make sure he could be home in time to be here for DD6 but he reminded me he was at a conference that day and couldn't guarantee being back. Quite apart from all that I would quite like an appt at my local surgery 10 mins down the road and surely out of hours appts are for the seriously ill/urgent cases. What happened to the days when you rang up, got an appointment for the next day or so, saw the Dr and got on with your life? Aggggh......

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ginandtonicformeplease · 01/02/2018 21:58

Last time I tried to get a non-urgent appointment was offered one in six weeks - they had nothing sooner. Out of hours rotates through the small towns (semi-rural) but of course there’s no public transport, and when it’s my town’s turn it’s held in the lovely new hospital that’s three miles out of town! No Saturday appointments, no evenings and they’re at least one GP short.

Cath2907 · 01/02/2018 22:02

I can always get a same day appt for urgent things here (north wales). Non urgent normally within a week.

londonrach · 01/02/2018 22:23

Yanbu. Weve got a hell system here. You cant book ahead. You have to phone in the morning then the go will phone back at some point in the day to talk to you to see if you need to be seen. Theres no surprise a&e here has huge waiting times! Daft system!

londonrach · 01/02/2018 22:23

Gp not go

BlackeyedSusan · 01/02/2018 22:27

I know at exactly which point in the 8 am pips to press the last number in the Drs phone number to get in that queue for an appointment, thoug they did fit dd in for an emergency apopintment the other day , but you have to be triaged first by a Gp.

Redglitter · 01/02/2018 22:29

My surgery is great. You can book appts up to 2 weeks in advance. Every morning at 0830 they open appointments for 48 hours time. If it's more urgent you can call and ask for a phone appt with the duty doctor who triages you over the phone & will either tell you to make a routine appointment, issue a prescription to be uplifted or ask you to call in.

I have an on going chronic condition and got 3 seperate appointments within 5 days one week. The system they have certainly seems to work

Alienspaceship · 01/02/2018 22:32

You’re bloody lucky. 2/3 MONTHS for non-urgent. If it’s urgent, you need to start ohini fat 8am and you need to take the day off work to keep up with phoning, them phoning back, 20 mins notice for your appointment - but when you get there it’s over an hour wait...

UndomesticHousewife · 01/02/2018 22:38

YANBU that’s terrible. This makes me realise how lucky I am I actually called the gp this morning at 8.45 for ds and was given an appointment at 10am.
Usually we’ll get the same day or next day appointments. Sometimes it can be a few days away and I get annoyed! I won’t be doing that now I don’t think.

ClosdesMouches · 01/02/2018 22:54

Six weeks for non-urgent. ring on the day at 8am for urgent. You can never get through quick enough so when you do finally have your call answere around 830am there are none left.
Would love Saturday appointments.

Semi rural. The population of the largest village in catchment has grown a lot in the past 3 years due to new housing. Unfortunately there are only the same amount of GPs working at the surgery.

Merryoldgoat · 01/02/2018 22:57

My surgery is excellent as was my prior before I moved.

I just checked the online system and they are booking routine appointments from Tuesday right through the next 3 weeks or so.

Additionally, if you have an urgent issue you call whenever you need to during the day, the doctor calls you back and triages you. I've been seen same day, usually within an hour or two, every time I've called.

All of the doctors are kind, patient, and thorough.

I'm sure there are reasons not all surgeries can have the same systems/processes etc so I'm trying not being simplistic, but I suspect there are a lot of surgeries not making the most of technology and common-sense solutions.

Sinistrophobia · 01/02/2018 23:22

My 20 month old DD developed eczema in the inside of her elbows and knees at the start of january, I rang for an appointment straight away for that and other issues she has. My appointment is on Monday, I've had to wait a full month for this appointment as they had no others available until then Angry

Whilst I've been waiting for that appointment, her eczema has spread to all over her arms and onto her shoulders and is now also going onto her chest, it's all down the back of her thighs and onto her bum and in her eyebrows and cheeks now too. It's really sore for her and is stopping her from sleeping as she's so uncomfortable. I feel if I'd have gotten an appointment sooner it wouldn't be as bad as what it is right now for her!

Osirus · 01/02/2018 23:32

My surgery is great. I phoned at 5.30pm to make a routine appointment and asked if I wanted to be seen THAT evening. I booked an appointment for the following week with a doctor who is in high demand. We also get weekend, late night and telephone appointments.

FiveLittlePigs · 01/02/2018 23:37

The surgery we go to we can phone at 8:30 and be asked "how soon can you get here?" I've often been seen, and home with my prescription an hour later. Brilliant practice. Love living in a village.

MrsSchadenfreude · 01/02/2018 23:49

Ours used to be brilliant - used to get a same day appointment, you just used to come in and wait. It's a large, central London practice, with 13 consulting rooms for the doctors and nurses.

Ten years ago the rooms were all occupied, the waiting room was busy and there was a quick turnaround. Today, you only get a same day appointment if you are in pain (and this can be at another surgery). You can get a phone call the same day from a doctor, who then prescribes you antibiotics over the phone. The consulting rooms are empty, the waiting room is empty. The regular GPs all work very part time - every other Thursday morning when there is an R in the month and a full moon, so if you want to see a specific GP, you can wait six weeks, due to them booking up quickly and their lack of availability. I've seen several locums. One prescribed something for me that the pharmacist told me had been taken off the books years ago, which meant I had to go back to get a different prescription. Another spoke such poor English I couldn't understand what he said. Two years ago, if you needed stitches removed, you could just turn up in the afternoon, and the nurse would do it. I called the day the stitches went in, and was told there were no appointments for over four weeks, which was two weeks after the stitches should have come out. I ended up going to another practice about three miles away to get them taken out.

I had a friend who was Belgian, who had worked here as a GP as well as in Belgium. He was appalled at the salaries that GPs got here (as in they were too high) - GPs in Belgium earn around £50K, have to do all of their own admin and run the practice themselves.

I've just checked the online booking system, and the earliest appointment, with a locum, is in three weeks time. It's no wonder people turn up at A & E, in desperation.

safariboot · 01/02/2018 23:52

@londonrach same for my DM's doctor. I suspect there's some massaging of figures going on - the GP can claim anyone who books an appointment gets seen on the same day, by simply not offering any appointments with a longer lead time.

Bumblesnuff4Crimpysnitch · 02/02/2018 00:17

I called GP surgery yesterday. Not urgent by any means but definitely could do with being seen in next day or so to prevent worsening that ends in hospital admission, again. Nope! 1st available non-urgent 10 minute appointment is on Wednesday 7th March. I need a double appointment, 1st available is the 20th March. The receptionist just dont get it, I'm not being awkward, I need help and just because it's not life threatening doesn't mean its OK to wait 5+ weeks.

They do phone appointments (limited to 1 query that can be sorted easily) and a 3-minute surgery. The 3-minute surgery is just that, of your query runs over 3 minutes they refuse to complete and refer you back to reception room book a routine appointment. The nurse takes all details then GP comes in with answers (and makes you feel like you wasted everyone's time, not just hers, horrible scheme).

I have complex collection of (rare) conditions, that were triggered by a very common condition, and it really is a waste of resources to see a GP who doesn't know me.

I wish someone could find a simple solution that would revolutionise GP appointments.

NewBallsPlease00 · 02/02/2018 00:19

Ours is an oversubscribed surgery but open surgery every morning 830-1130, you arrive and its first come first served, if you're in by 1130 you will be seen. It's brilliant and efficient.

petbear · 02/02/2018 00:34

YANBU.

It takes 4 weeks to get a routine appointment here. SO, a few people I know actually make routine appointments even when they don't need to see the doctor.... Like tomorrow they would make one for 2nd March, JUST in case they need it. And around a week before, they cancel it, (if it's not needed,) and remake it for like 20th March. Then cancel (if it's not needed,) and remake it and so on...

Occasionally, you can ring for an appointment and get one for 2-3 days away. I think it's coz someone else is doing the same.......... booking appointments 3-4 weeks in advance, and cancelling them and rebooking for a few weeks later. (So their cancellation pops up IYSWIM.)

Seems daft, but that is what people are doing. Booking a routine appointment for themselves, (in case they need it!) and then cancelling and rebooking (again) for a month away.

Oldsu · 02/02/2018 00:56

Brilliant service with my GP and Hospital, DH is having problems with his knees (he is 68) made an appointment last Tuesday was offered 7.40am appt on Thursday, he needed an x ray, went to x ray walk in centre on Monday, waited 10 minutes was told results would take 2 weeks, on Tuesday he had a message from his GP results are back in and to make a GP appointment, was offered one tomorrow but he is working so his appt is Monday, of course we are both hoping the speed is due to an efficient service and not the results of a serious issue raised by the x ray.

NewYearNiki · 02/02/2018 01:06

I dont understand the outrage at a 3 week wait for an admittedly non urgent appointment.

If your child or you was referred to hospital you'd wait several weeks for the appointment unless it was urgent.

scaredtomentionit · 02/02/2018 01:46

I've just registered with new surgery - 2 permnanet doctors to list size of 16000 plus locums. 4 hours usually to get an answer on phone, as so busy. No seats left in waiting area, standing room only usually. GPs themselves haven't a clue who I am one appt to the next and spend whole appt reading my notes. NHS 24 help more!

Didiplanthis · 02/02/2018 07:24

To the pp who Belgian GP on 50k was do appalled by UK Gp salaries - you fo realize aberage gp salary here is about 56k and there is vast amounts of admin and management involved ? And if the cushy conditions are so amazing why is there such a huge recruitment and retention crisis ? Clearly none if you can get appointment because the lazy overpaid gps can't be bothered. Nothing to do with not having enough time to put more appointments in to give you.

MrsSchadenfreude · 02/02/2018 07:56

Didiplantthis - he was on over £100K.

MiaowTheCat · 02/02/2018 08:05

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Didiplanthis · 02/02/2018 08:15

That's not the usual salary though. There are definately some on that and it was more usual in the past but salaries have dropped significantly over the past 10 years. Also compulsory insurance will be at least 10-15 % off that along with multiple other professional outgoings. There is a very skewed understanding of gp pay/hours etc mostly thanks to sensational media reporting which has contributed to the anti gp backlash. This is playing a significant part in the recruitment crisis. I know it's frustrating but the more gp bashing that goes on the worse this situation will get. No one goes to work to restrict access and availability - there are too few hours in the day. The appointments are already too short for comfort so cannot be increased by compressing them and the day cannot be made longer ! There are simply no doctors out there to offer the increased hours promised by the government.

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