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To feel like I'm being judged about food

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HoundedBabyLed · 30/01/2018 08:03

My DS is 8 months old and has been baby-led weaned since he was a little under 6 months, when he was ready by current guidelines. He's also breast fed. He eats a varied diet through the day, and largely what we're eating, minus a few allergens and with less spice/etc. He eats as much or as little as he wants, minimal intervention, because I believe food is for fun for a few more months. And he does have what I'd call a healthy appetite. He's not afraid of asking for more, or pinching some of mine/DH's if he's not done.

We've had a rough month for sleeping - all three of us had flu early on in the month, and are still recovering from that, DS's been teething, he's going through a developmental patch if Wonder Weeks is to be believed... It's been everything all at once. The last good night's sleep he had was around Christmas, and he's slowly getting back to that stage. In the meantime, if he needs nighttime cuddles and boobs, I'm fine with providing them. He used to sleep through the night when he was tiny, but never fully recovered from a sleep regression around 4 months - every time he's come close, something else has happened to set him back.

Last night, DFIL called DH, as he does every week. And despite knowing all of the above, he asked if the reason DS isn't sleeping through the night is if he's hungry. I don't think there's any malice behind it, but I feel like it's constant. When we visited over Christmas, DFIL's DP kept telling us how much DS "needs" more food because he's dropped two centile lines since birth (genes catching up with him, DH is skinny, DS is skinny) - to the extent of being told just my milk isn't enough for him any more, even though he was ill at the time and that was all he wanted. This DP's daughter was weaned very early, eating full meals by the time she could sit up, and again, that seems to be a benchmark we're not reaching. Before my DS was ready for weaning she'd initiate long conversations about how weaning before 6 months never did her/me/other people any harm, like that would convince me to give DS food sooner.

As well as all this, DN is very close in age to DS and he's been more or less sleeping through since weaning (traditional, so he does tend to eat more than DS) and switch to formula, and I feel like we're being compared to that standard - even though they're more "cry it out" inclined and DH and I are more inclined to some of the principles of gentle parenting and comforting through the night even to the detriment of our own sleep. Different strokes etc, but that's also a factor in how they sleep. And they have very different personalities and needs. But a lot of the family attributes DN's sleeping to him eating so clearly we're not feeding our DS enough.

I'm not sure if this feels like a huge deal, but it is really starting to grind my gears. AIBU to be annoyed with how persistent this is?

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Bambamber · 30/01/2018 08:52

Another big sleep regression at 8 months! Keep doing what you're doing, as long as you're still following baby's lead on milk feeds your baby will still have a full tummy.

We've been judged for blw, my daughter's always fed herself. My sil tried feeding her a tiny crumb of garlic bread saying ' Oh I'll pop this in her mouth as it's too small for her to grab'. Should of seen her face when my daughter pushed her hand away from her mouth before grabbing the food with her pincer grip and fed herself. Soon shut everyone up

Spam88 · 30/01/2018 08:52

Sounds like you're doing a great job, but other people will always have opinions on how you're doing things!

You sound quite similar to us actually, my little girl is 8 months old and baby-led weaned, her sleep never went back to how good it was before the four month regression, but we survive! I've had people suggest I give her a bottle of formula before bed to knock her out, I just smile and nod and carry on as I am.

RadioGaGoo · 30/01/2018 08:53

Ignore Daisy OP. Some people have this belief that their way of parenting is the best and only way. You can't spoil a baby with your attention.

Isadora2007 · 30/01/2018 08:54

Keep on as you’re doing. But don’t be completely honest with the in laws. Once you share that kind of info, people like to share their opinions on it. Just say he is fine- because he is! Completely normal and well-loved and looked after lucky wee boy.

FeedtheTree · 30/01/2018 08:55

Hounded you sound to me like you are doing fine. Absolutely fine. You sound incredibly aware of your son's needs and wants and in tune with him. You don't remotely sound like someone who is controlling his food intake and denying him what he wants or needs.
Yes, you're bing judged. Get used to it and learn to ignore it. Being a parent is a constant flux of being judged and praised nad criticised. Let it all wash over you. I happened to raise my DC very much like you raise yours. Not following any guidelines. It just made sense to cuddle a tiny creature who wakes in the night wanting cuddles. Not spoiled at all.

JaneEyre70 · 30/01/2018 08:56

I'm a grandmother, and I will be honest that if one of my grandchildren had dropped 2 centile lines since birth, I'd be quite concerned too. I think BLW is great for tasting and experimenting but from watching my DDs children, they actually take very little on board. I'd add in some spoon feeding to just make sure too, my DD found a happy compromise in the end and their weights soon picked back up.

OoohSmooch · 30/01/2018 09:01

BLW, spoon weaning or a combination of both. Some babies sleep through, some don't.

My almost 10 month old is a combination (although probably more spoon as she's a lazy bum) and she eats really well. She's only been sleeping through for the past FOUR nights. I've no idea why but she just has. Before she had more than enough food and was still waking.

If the sleep thing is affecting your sleep then of course try more food, it can't hurt.

Ultimately whether BL or spoon led, they'll all end up fully functioning adults who eat well in the most part!

crunchymint · 30/01/2018 09:02

I think it is hard to watch someone you love parent and be exhausted, when you think you know how things could be easier for them. I am not saying they are right by the way, but I suspect their advice comes from a place of love.

HamishBamish · 30/01/2018 09:05

We have been through similar issues with DS1 and also DS2 to a lesser extent. Both were ebf for 6 months and didn't eat solids in large amounts until they were around 15/16 months. They also co-slept and bf during the night until they were 2+.

Everyone has their own experience of the parenting and I think people comment to try and be helpful, but don't realise it can be irritating. I would carry on as you are OP. You know your baby best.

justanotherday4 · 30/01/2018 09:05

I have come to realise that it does no harm to at least listen to what our parents/PILs have to say..... you and your OH are of course mummy and daddy and you will always do what you see best for your LO, but you do say that you get on well with your PIL and they've obviously done a good job raising your OH for you to marry him lol, maybe just take a little bit of advice from them? FWIW, I attempted BLW with my LO but soon found that he just wasn't eating much so I usually offered a spoon feed option which seemed to encourage the BLW too IYKIM?

Ragwort · 30/01/2018 09:06

I do think there can be a tendancy to 'over share' information, no one, apart from you and your DH needs to know every detail of your baby's , sleeping/eating habits - just keep repeating 'fine, thank you' and change the subject.

tabbywabby · 30/01/2018 09:10

but from watching my DDs children, they actually take very little on board
And, so what? That's normal.

"Under one, food is for fun" - breastfed or formula food, a baby's main source of nutrition is supposed to be milk at this age, and it's always higher calorie. If a baby 'needs' extra calories, you increase the milk, not food.

OP, don't tell them about sleep. If they ask, say "

HoundedBabyLed · 30/01/2018 09:11

JaneEyre

He's been tracking along this line since way before weaning, and he's not lost weight since the normal loss immediately following birth - nobody's concerned, we get him weighed most months to check he's not dropped more, and he hasn't. His length has been consistent. His dad has no waist to speak of either, so it just seems genetic. It sounds concerning, but it isn't concerning us or professionals.

He does actually take in a lot - based on what I know he was given, and what's later scattered around the highchair. I also know what he will consistently eat most of, and regularly offer it. He's a persistent kid, and he refuses to be spoon fed (though he will eat off a spoon, if it's handed to him with something wet on), this is just what works for us.

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tabbywabby · 30/01/2018 09:11

Oops, posted accidentally.

If they ask, say "Sleeping like a baby" ;-). Which is true.

Bluntness100 · 30/01/2018 09:13

I think on one hand you know your baby best.

The two things that would concern me slightly is he has dropped two centile since birth, and that you say he has to "pinch" food or ask for more.

I'm also not sure "food is for fun"at this age, as the child needs enough sustanence.

However he is your child and if you feel he is being fed enough and isn't hungry, then it should be all good.

If it was me though, I'd probably quietly feed him a little more to see if there was a link to his sleep At least I wouldn't wish him to have to ask for more or pinch food anymore.

MrsPreston11 · 30/01/2018 09:22

Sounds like you're doing the perfect job.

Ignore ignore ignore.

No such thing as spoiling a baby FFS. He knows what he wants/needs.

HoundedBabyLed · 30/01/2018 09:22

The two things that would concern me slightly is he has dropped two centile since birth, and that you say he has to "pinch" food or ask for more.

To clarify this - he isn't given his whole meal all at once at the moment, but can see the rest of his food. If he finishes what's on his tray, and wants more, he asks for more. If he spots something he doesn't have yet and fancies, he asks for it. I don't withhold food, just control how much he has at any time so he doesn't get overwhelmed, which he does if he has everything at once. As for the "pinching" when we don't have access to a highchair he helps himself from my plate. Normal behaviour.

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Catsize · 30/01/2018 09:24

you are doing yourselves and your baby no favours spoiling 'gentle parenting' him during the night.

I think you’re doing a child no favours be ignoring its crying. Other than to teach them there’s no point in crying as the person they need/want most doesn’t seem to give a toss about them.

And then there have been the times I’ve gone up to my child to find them covered in vomit or something. Ignoring those cries could have been dangerous.

Some people are just trying to avoid giving their kids the inexplicable sense of low worth and insecurity that they may have due to their own parents’ CIO beliefs. Just sayin’. Because I can’t say it in real life because what I have to say is supposedly offensive and uncomfortable to hear.

Steeley113 · 30/01/2018 09:25

I think it sounds like you judge each other for your differences tbh. I did a little experiment with my kids (not on purpose, just worked out that way). My first was breastfed, blw and sleep trained. He’s independent but a fussy eater and suffers with ear infections. My second was FF, traditionally weaned and picked up whenever he cries (which was a lot) and he’s clingy, eats absolutely anything and never ill. I just think they are different kids, nothing to do with my choices at all so relax and do what you want to do. And tell everyone else to do the same!

feska5 · 30/01/2018 09:26

Definitely be more vague with your PIL. Don’t tell them in detail about food or sleep patterns so they can’t comment. He’s your DS, you do what feels right for him and your family.

ChocolateChipMuffin2016 · 30/01/2018 09:26

I could have written your exact post a few months ago. My DS was EBF till 9 months (when I went back to work) and BLW and NEVER slept through the night. One very lovely lady at a baby class said to me "Food under one is just for fun" when I was worrying about him not eating enough and that stuck with me. But everyone likes to have an opinion, my DM telling me to let him cry at night, but I wouldn't, he wants his mum, he gets his mum (or dad!). Give him formula, feed him baby rice just before bed. I ignored them all!
My DS is now 14 months and its like a switch went off in his head when he turned one and he just started sleeping through. Nothing really changed, he was eating more, but that was his choice and had been increasing for a while, he did go onto cows milk (changed from formula/BF), but not for his night feed (hes still BF as part of his bedtime routine). He does still wake if he's ill/teething or just having an off day, but it's much less often.
Do what is right for you and your little one, if people give you advice smile and nod and do what you want anyway. If you don't want advice, lie and say they're sleeping/eating whatever and just do it your way!

Bluntness100 · 30/01/2018 09:29

How does he ask for more op at eight months old? Maybe a little more so he doesn't have to do this? There's maybe a line between being overwhelmed and an eight month old having to ask his parents for more food as he is hungry?

HoundedBabyLed · 30/01/2018 09:40

blunt he gets our attention and reaches for the bowl with his food in (which he can't reach himself because he's in the highchair and it's on the dining table). He's never refused more, but sometimes he doesn't want more than he's given. We're all learning together and I'd rather he have a bit too little initially and ask for more than be given too much and eat until he's sick - which he has done while experimenting with how much to give. If I don't know how much I want to eat I start with a small portion and have more if I still want it. I'm trying to teach healthy habits, but obviously different people do this differently.

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FizzyGreenWater · 30/01/2018 09:42

Time to push back. Don't let it become the 'norm' that she gets to pick at you and you just take it. Otherwise you're going to have years of this as they grow up!

'He sleeps fine actually. I'm really happy that we're following these guidelines, especially when you look at the levels of childhood obesity!'

'There's a lot of evidence that early weaning does a lot of harm actually. Mind you everyone does it differently and I've learned pretty quick that if you don't want ot fall out with people you don't judge their choces when it comes to their kids! Recipe for disaster hahaha!'

Tap on the nose needed. You have just as much right as her to basic manners, thanks. Beak out and stop judging, DFIL DP!

Herewegoagain01 · 30/01/2018 10:03

I’d ignore them. You know what you’re doing is best for your son. They may mean well but blw is a fairly new idea and most older generations will be used to spoon feeding.

My 11mo is bf and does blw, he packs his food in now, literally eats more than his older sibling, but wakes up loads in the night. I doubt he’s hungry, but associates booby with getting to sleep. I imagine it’s similar for your ds. If you’re happy with it, carry on. And maybe stop discussing sleep with them.

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