Parents should have a say on sex ed in England.

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Dear all, the government is planning a major overhaul of Sex and Relationship teaching in England. They have opened a consultation and would like to hear from people (especially people who have been involved in education).

Please let your views be known, I have just responded with my views that included the need to teach about the damage done by porn, the damaging and sexist, Transgender agenda and the normalisation of damaging sex acts in the name of being inclusive. I also registered my irritation at groups such as Mermaids having access to students.

These are my personal bugbears but the more of us who speak the better idea of views they will have.
This is the link consult.education.gov.uk/life-skills/pshe-rse-call-for-evidence/

Please consider filling it in. It closes on the 12th of Feburary.

consult.education.gov.uk/life-skills/pshe-rse-call-for-evidence/

Done.

Why do you think access to information is a bad idea?

NewYear The great thing about this consultation is that if you do not agree with me then you can fill it in and share your own views.

I do not believe that Mermaids are giving children honest information. I think they reinforce disgusting gender stereotypes, look at this teaching slide used by Mermaids. Notice how the more feminine someones gender is the thinner and pinker they are.

Thank you OP, I shall respond.

Notice how the more feminine someones gender is the thinner and pinker they are.
I always thought I was overweight because of the crap I eat, now I find out it's because I'm gay & definitely not feminine

Filled it in thanks for prompt.

I think it's quite an interesting exercise balancing what you don't want your kids to be taught vs, what I want to make sure other vulnerable children do get taught.

Whirllwind, I also struggled with that. I know my child would never be at risk of FGM and I am sad they will find out about it at a young age but I realise that it is necessary to protect other children.

I like the pink start chart. It's something the kids can relate to.

There was another thread about this consultation.

I asked the consultation to prioritise self-esteem and teaching kids to understand how to identify what a reliable source of information is. Also everything to do with puberty and what can happen to their bodies.

Seems to me you've confused sex education and other issues.

When should teachers be covering all of this and why is your version of the "trans agenda" correct, whatever it might be?

What are "damaging sex acts in the name of being inclusive"? What is a damaging sex act?

As someone who is involved in education I struggle to cover the PSHE syllabus as it is. I think taking the mantle from parents to raise their children has already gone to far and if you want to ensure your children think the same way as you, that's your job.

"Notice how the more feminine someones gender is the thinner and pinker they are."

Women are slighter than men. Smaller and with less muscle mass. Whilst relatively recently women were more feminine with nice child-bearing hips, this has changed. There was a fascinating article about how the safety of a cesarean means mothers and children who would have died in childbirth due to this size-mismatch are surviving and altering evolution.

Besides the point though. They're simply representations. Give over!

tenacious we should not conflate thinness with femininity.

I think any group who advocates a life of medication and surgery for children because they do not conform to sexist gender stereotypes should be kept away from kids. That is the damaging trans agenda that I am referring to.

Here is an article about girls increasingly suffering physical damage from boys replicating sex acts they have seen in porn. melindatankardreist.com/2015/04/what-no-one-wants-to-talk-about-how-girls-bodies-are-injured-by-porn-using-boys/

I do not think this can be solely left to parents because then some children will have no knowledge of this and will be more vulnerable to abuse.

I remember when they used to describe the ‘gay agenda’

How times have changed.

The representation of brown and black people in that Mermaids chart is that they are unfeminine.

we should not conflate thinness with femininity.

Read my reply again.

Gender stereotypes are not sexist. There is no 'against' in them, simply observations.

Safe sex is fine and understandably taught as is the right to say no. Are you talking about girls being raped or is the anal sex one of those "nuanced arguments" with the patriarchy to blame?

You're still confusing the difference between politics and child safety as well as the role of a teacher which is primarily academic.

Women are slighter than men

Women also are more likely to carry fat around their hips than men. Many trans women have slim hips and long thin legs. These are not feminine traits. It's because they carry weight differently compared to women.

It's a really bad idea to equate weight with gender identity.

TenaciousC

"Gender Stereotypes are not sexist" - you are being ridiculous. "Girls like food tech and boys like science" is a gender stereotype. Is that not sexist?

Read the article I linked to, about girls being hurt, it explains it all.

I think you are being a deliberate GF.

Well if transwomen are women and transmen are men and that is being enshrined in law then i guess sex education needs to be changed to reflect that such as this educational cartoon.

Women also are more likely to carry fat around their hips than men.

Yes. I said "Whilst relatively recently women were more feminine with nice child-bearing hips, this has changed."

I have no idea what point you were making about trans women. You lost me.

Girls like food tech and boys like science" is a gender stereotype. Is that not sexist?

Is it true? Is food tech less worthy than "science"? Is 'boys like Physics and girls like Biology' sexist (we capitalise academic subjects)?

The article explained nothing but feel free to ignore my question.

I understand that calling someone a "GF" is easier than intelligent replies.

You're still confusing the difference between politics and child safety as well as the role of a teacher which is primarily academic.

Do you not see the "trans agenda" as political and nothing to do with sex education i.e. biology with a bit of awareness of your own body and some general morality?

Which part of the NC should be dropped to make way for "the trans debate" and 'even if you want anal sex of your own volition, it's still bad. Yes, you have free will but this isn't free will because the head-women have decided you are brainwashed'.

Do we spend an equal amount of time telling homosexual men not to have anal sex? Is that a patriarchal trick too?

TenaciousC fill in the consultation or don't. You know my views.

I have. It was cathartic.

"damaging and sexist, Transgender agenda and the normalisation of damaging sex acts in the name of being inclusive."

I wonder what that could possibly mean. Anal sex maybe? What's good for the trans gander is good for the gay goose, I suppose? Come into the 21st century, the water is warm!

balsamic you do not have to wonder what it means I included a link to the relevant article.

Batmanwears I am glad you mention gay rights. Homosexual rights are threatened by trans rights.
Lesbians have suffered terrible abuse from trans activists who are angry with them that they would not have sex with a transwoman who has a penis.
Homosexual children are being told they are trans when they are actually gay.
No one is the LGB community ever advocated for sterilisation of children or women being erased as a sex class.