To think (worry) kids are so confused these days? (Trans)

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This story is in the Independent and doing the rounds on twitter etc. Supposed to be a 17yr old high school kid telling of his huge crush on a transgirl in school. He wants to ask her out and turned to reddit for advice. Says he’s worried about others reactions and that they might think he’s gay. All seems so sweet and heartwarming - but.

He’s being put on a pedestal and told to go for it - all seems to be hugely encouraging - even famous trans actor Laverne Cox tweeted their approval.

My issue is - is everyone forgetting that the his transgirl will have a male body beneath the feminine exterior. Or have we reached a place where this actually doesn’t matter anymore and this is the brave new word - the future? Where sex is sidelined for gender identity. So is this a heart warming progressive tale, a sign of things to come - or is it weird, are our children being brainwashed into a new way of thinking, a new society shske up really. Is this where our kids are heading. Attraction to gender the aim rather than sex/biological attraction. Anyone else find this somewhat weird snd even sinister? Who is pushing this brave new ideology?

This is a long thread of it on twitter. And the Indy article.

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He's 17. He might be gay, straight, bi, pan or anything else. I don't really understand what the issue is. He may like penis. That's fine.

You basically seem like you're offended that he might be attracted to someone trans.

*He's 17. He might be gay, straight, bi, pan or anything else. I don't really understand what the issue is. He may like penis. That's fine.

You basically seem like you're offended that he might be attracted to someone trans.*

This.

Museum, would they? I don't know. Just mooting the possibility. Why is it preferable to have a psychological disorder over a physical one, in terms of conservatism?

I think a lot of the trans agenda is hugely damaging to women and is a massively retrograde step for the rights that have been won over the past century.

However, I really can't see an issue with this situation unless he feels obliged to go further than he wants in a relationship with the trans girl or if being gay is seen as something negative. Ultimately, I think sexuality is a spectrum, ranging from completely and exclusively heterosexual to completely and exclusively homosexual and that very few of us are at the extreme ends of the spectrum. So someone who is predominantly heterosexual, could look at a member of the same sex and feel a very minor attraction to them but not want to take it any further. Someone further down the spectrum may want to take it further etc. It's no harm for us to recognise this, explore it if we want to and to accept people's choices.

Because a person having been born with the wrong sexual organs is surely an indictment of his creator, isn't it?

Really conservative Jews and Christians, which is the group you're alluding to here, I think, don't even like tattoos.

It’s the responses i find “interesting” - all urging him on and about how he should go about the date and what type of flowers to take etc. I doubt it’s a real post but i know love conquers all - but no one (I’ve seen) has pointed out that his crush has a penis. This kid seems to be describing himself as straight. I just find it strange that no one has brought that up.

Because a person having been born with the wrong sexual organs is surely an indictment of his creator, isn't it?

Museum, but a 'mental disorder' isn't? Why the distinction?

As you'll know, fundamentalist people of the book tend to believe that homosexuality and certainly gender dysphoria are preferences that can be overcome.

My point was there are degrees of fundamentalism. Some fundamentalists will not accept standard treatment and medicine for any physical illnesses. Some do.

Transition could possibly be a form of homophobia as the trans ideology obscures how people perceive people's sex thus disguising an attraction to people of the same sex. This homophobia could easily have arisen out of fundamentalist views on homosexuality.

This kid seems to be describing himself as straight.

Things have changed since I was a cool teen. But of the friends I had back then that subsequently 'came out' I can't recall one that did so without a strong feeling of fear and trepidation. Indeed many gay men have married and had children to escape their true identity - no doubt ruining many lives in that process. He's 17. I say let him live and discover. If this so-called woman with a penis is not for him he'll soon learn that and move on. The only good thing that has come out of this obsession with identity politics is that people are a lot more vocal and forward in their views. I would rather he experiment a bit and find he likes a cock in a skirt than go off and marry a woman with expectations of family life and children only for him to 'reveal' himself 30 years later and cause all manner of heart-break.