To think we all need to listen to this......

[Thisisnotok]

Was sad to read about all the young women found dead in the porn industry in the last month.

Am also sad to see the culture my ds and dd are growing up in. I watched this ted talk

Growing Up in a Pornified Culture Gail Dines

My goodness we need to take action now

Nope. Gail Dines is a self-aggrandizing liar and, while the porn industry has its faults, there are people working to improve the conditions of performers and produce ethical, diverse, interesting work.
Porn is not to blame for all social ills - religion is far, far more toxic (and it's religion which is responsible for the generally harmful attitudes to sex that people are still trying to shake off.)

She isn’t lieing in this ted talk? It’s true.

From my youth of lads mags and my older brother stealing my copy of Cindy Crawfords exercise video. Now there is hard core porn available at the end of a smart phone. How is this not going to affect our children? I guarantee it’s ending up in playgrounds shaping the attitudes of boys and girls towards sex and respecting each other.

Are you connected with the porn industry, SGB?

Thinking the same thing, uglyswan.

I’m not judging you if you are SGB but clearly these young women are unhappy. I feel protective towards them. This pornification is affecting how my 13yo nieces portray themselves on social media and in turn how my ds will view women. It will affect how my dd is treated as she grows. It’s a real problem.

It's horrendous that women's bodies are still seen as commodities to buy and sell and that there would be people who defend buying and selling women's bodies.

If women are doing porn for whatever reasons they have, I would rather work was going to improve conditions, than have it forced underground by trying to ban it.

There are two problems here whatever the hell is going on to make I think 5 young porn stars die within a couple of months needs addressing.

Then second by being permissive and turning a blind eye this monster is getting out of control. This is affecting all of our children. I don't want my 7 year old copying clothes and dance routines from girl bands that wouldn't look out of place in a porn shoot. I don't want her thinking this is how women should be or act. I don't want my ds to think that either. When you open your eyes it is everywhere. I also don't want my children being shown hard core porn by a peer in the playground on a phone. I don't want my children's brain seeing images that are degrading and grotesque. I don't want my ds or dd to think of women as "whores" or "sluts" language that often labels the film content. I don't want porn behaviour to be considered so normal that it's what is expected in a loving relationship. I also don't want the young actors in these films to feel they have no worth so have to end their life.

I have lived to read

....the porn industry has its faults, there are people working to improve the conditions of performers and produce ethical, diverse, interesting work....

Why do you call prostitutes 'performes', they are sex workers by choice - unless trafficed/forced, which is a wholly different criminal matter - let's call spade a spade, please.

What type of 'ethical, diverse, interesting' work will the prostitutes be doing in the future?

Mind boggles.....

Thisisnotok

This has nothing to do with modern times, only that the availability is there. But Victorian times when they were officially fainting at the idea of a bared ankle also had a blooming hard core porn industry.
Sleaziness and the idea of a woman's body as a commodity has always been here. Nothing to do with now.

Then second by being permissive and turning a blind eye this monster is getting out of control. This is affecting all of our children. I don't want my 7 year old copying clothes and dance routines from girl bands that wouldn't look out of place in a porn shoot. I don't want her thinking this is how women should be or act. I don't want my ds to think that either. When you open your eyes it is everywhere. I also don't want my children being shown hard core porn by a peer in the playground on a phone. I don't want my children's brain seeing images that are degrading and grotesque. I don't want my ds or dd to think of women as "whores" or "sluts" language that often labels the film content.

You realise what is your problem? You look at the result and mistake it with a cause.

Hang on OP, have you leaped from porn to Girl Bands?

Clandestino.... what is the 'cause'?

"Ethical porn" - what's that when it's at home?

I also think religion does more damage.

The more repressed the era (usually in terms of controlling and policing women's behaviour) the worse the exploitation and abuse of women and children behind closed doors - particularly of those women and children regarded as 'inferior' (on the grounds of race/class).

BTW, I refer to porn performers because that's an accurate term for people who perform in porn films.

Radio look up the ted talk mentioned above explains it much better than I am

Clandestino......what do you feel is the cause?

wakemeupbefore

I already mentioned the cause - the perception of women's bodies as commodity, something that can be graded and you can put price on it and what you do with that.
This is the perception which needs to change, this is where we can start.

I really don't like the term 'porn star"
I feel it glamorises the job - that somehow you are a 'star '

I agree lady it does glamourise it

Clandestino I agree totally.

Op I completely agree with you. It horrifies me

Thank you OP, but I am not a fan of Gail Dines and would therefore prefer not to. I'll research elsewhere.

porn is not to blame for all social ills - religion is far, far more toxic (and it's religion which is responsible for the generally harmful attitudes to sex that people are still trying to shake off.)

SGB, I see far more posts on here about men who have ED due to watching too much porn than I see posts about religion affecting relationships. I also see far more posts about men whose ideas about sex and intimacy have been badly warped by watching too much hardcore porn.