AIBU to refuse to provide Nursery with longer length birth certificate?

[peonylover22]

DS has been at nursery since October. We provided a copy of his short form birth certificate, together with details of DH and me, when he was registered with the nursery. Nursery now want a copy of the longer length birth certificate for all children in their care. AIBU in refusing to provide this? I don’t want to be a “difficult parent” but I don’t want to provide the additional personal data unless there is a legal requirement for the nursery to obtain this information. Of course if there is such a legal requirement we will happily provide it.

We ask to 'see' either birth cert or passport. We do not photo-copy but make a note of numbers of either (or both if supplied)
This is information needed for funding, and we usually do it on registration even if the child is not yet funded as its easier to just get it all sorted during the initail registration.

Parents are asked about PR as a separate issue- then asked to prove if there are any issues.

I refuse to photocopy anything that is not needed- as it just makes more paperwork that I have to file safely.

A short version of the birth certificate is a legally binding document just as the king version.

As the new rules are coming in this year with compliance, I would write to the nursery requesting to know why they need this information, how they are going to store this information as it has sensitive information about yourself and your husband, how king are they going to store it and in what formats.

Politely ask, but ask as they do have to give you answers over the security

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-management/reproduction-of-birth-death-marriage-certificates.pdf

It should also be noted the laws concerning copying civil registration certificates

The short certificate has all the relevant information that a nursery should need. I'd just say no if you aren't comfortable letting them copy the long one. You have to pay for a long one so not everyone will have one.

You can apply for a passport with 'just' the short birth certificate so I can't see why nursery needs the long version.

I can understand your reluctance. However, if the reason for nurseries wanting this is to prevent fraud then I'd comply.

The date of birth is on the short birth certificate, it wouldn't be much of a birth certificate without it, so I don't see how the extra details pertaining only to the parents on the long certificate would prevent fraud compared to the details on the short certificate.

They'd be stuffed if it were for my dcs as I don't have the long certificate anyway and have never had a problem with supplying the short one for school or child benefit.

When my son joined nursery we had to provide all sorts of personal details about ourselves that is also on the long form. It is a public document and with a minimal amount of information you could obtain any specific birth certificate (I do this as part of my job)

At the nursery I work in we don't accept the short version
We have a legal obligation to ascertain who has parental responsibility
The easiest way is the long birth certificate
The short one has not got all the relevant information
If there are changes to PR then the child will have a court order which should also be provided
We also ask for a utility bill to prove parents live where they say they live
We also need this information to claim the funding whether it's 15, 30 or 2 year funding
For 30 hours we also need parents dates of birth and their NI number

agent not any more - you require the long version if the person was born after 1982
www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/118596/birth-certificates-policy.pdf

It only cost about £4 so I got two when my son was born - it costs much more if you ask for it later

Agent daisy

The passport office has access to the GRO so this would be why the short certificate would be fine

You do need to provide copy of birth certificate for funding nut short one should be enough. It 'might' be something to do with the new 30 hours as someone else suggested re fraud