To believe “wind the bobbin up” is inappropriate and to ask my child’s Nursery not to sing it.

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Wind the bobbin up originated in the cotton mill towns of the north of England in Victorian times. As anyone who knows a bit about a bit history can tell you, the cotton mills were horrendous places which horrifically exploited women and children, forcing them to do dangerous work in appalling conditions for little pay.

How can it be right to trivialise these horrors by getting children to sing a light-hearted ditty about it... It’s offensive to the memory of all those who suffered these horrendous conditions and experienced serious injury or even death as a result of hideously exploitative working practices.

Let the child learn the song - then, when they're old enough teach them about the background. This applies to virtually all nursery rhymes with dark origins.

I know x2boys, I mean you're hitting your head against a brick wall trying to explain to posters that an explanation has been given already

Ah Sum apologies

I know it's all very funny an' all, but am I the only one suffering a sense of humour failure? It's bloody Winterval all over again, isn't it? I hate the idea of handing the ignorant any more information.

Infirmation? I mean ammunition.

Cant get it out of my head now!!

You've made the front page of Yahoo News now, OP

I can get it out of your head sotired. Try the waffle song from Roblox. It's still in my head from last night!

Do you like waffles?
Yeah, we like waffles.

I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but I can’t get over the fact that so-called ‘journalists’ are making entire stories out of a thread that they apparently couldn’t even be bothered to read as far as page three!

"It's raining, it's pouring
The old man is snoring
He went to bed, he bumped his head
And couldn't get up in the morning"

That's because he suffered a catastrophic brain injury and died, no mention of that though.

My mum and dad worked in the cotton mills of Lancashire and would have been proud to have a nursery rhyme about their industry. They were both happy and neither felt themselves exploited. It was a job they were lucky to have after the war. Please don't comment on things you don't understand.

Oh peterstott48, your comment is absolutely classic in light of this thread. You really should have read it first 😂😂😂

Well this made yahoo's news page

Sun, Mirror, Yahoo and Manchester Evening News.... not DM though. Perhaps their journalists do actually RTFT first!

Surely we have better things to do ? Yes conditions in mills were bad but so was all industry. Let's be proud of what we had.

Maybe you shouldn't comment peter if yoy cant be bothered reading past page 3? So many pompous arses on this thread 😞

Oh dear Lyn, should have read the thread maybe 🙄

Hang on so you think slavery and concentration camps are jokey material?

Ah there’s always one determined to Be Offended. And I’m not talking about the OP.

Flash back to critiqueing Sense and Sensibility when a wee lass u’pp narth in between pulling pints in a pub in York - which is as close as damn it to our historic cotton industry we should be proud of :)

Having a surfeit of sensibilities is a sign of superiority these days it seems.

Hang on so you think slavery and concentration camps are jokey material?

No, of course not... but neither were the conditions in Victorian factories. The point was just because an historical event involved great suffering, it doesn’t follow that any idiom, phrase or (in the case) nursery rhyme that alludes to that event is reasonably regarded as offensive.

The overwhelming consensus is that the argument that “Wind the Bobbin” up is offensive is ridiculous. In the same way saying “I’m not your slave” to your child
who’s expecting you to wait on them isn’t offensive to the memory of slaves and “this isn’t a concentration camp” said to pupils in order to place their whinging in perspectice isn’t offensive to the memory of Holocaust victims (as was being argued in the thread that inspired this one).

Oh dear! Another example of how the world has gone completely mad. I am northern and my grandparents and great grandparents northern and some have worked in the mills. It’s a song that has been passed down in my family.
Not offensive at all but stupid ridiculous suggestions like this one are!!

Please don't comment on things you don't understand.

Oh Peter... 🤦🏼‍♀️

Peterstott has made himself look a complete idiot, like so many lazy ignorant and arrogant posters piling in.

Perhaps (some of us) could have badges made up with IRTT or preferably IRTFT?
It's like being part of a (very) select club.

Pop goes the weasel is about people drinkin away all their wages in pubs and then having to pawn their weasel (bit of machinery from a loom).