AIBU to get the rage with snow clearing neighbours???

[k2p2k2tog]

We've had snow this morning in Glasgow, a good couple of inches. As soon as it stopped, my neighbours were out in force with their snow shovels to clear the snow off their paths and into the roads.

All very neighbourly. Except the fuckers haven't put down salt, grit or anything else on the cleared area, so what they've done is transfomred the pavement from on covered in crunchy snow which was easy to walk on, into an ice rink.

Numpties.

Yes to the not gritting if clearing - very dangerous.

I get more annoyed about piling all the excess snow into the gutter though as it makes getting the car in and out very difficult. We are lucky and live on a bus route so road is always gritted, but trying to get to the central clear carriageway over the 'Alps' is impossible. If you are going to clear the pavement it would be better to leave it either heaped up against boundary walls/fences or in your own garden.

I'd love to wake up to few inches!! Sorry !

Been on my own too long !

My daughter who lives in Hastings finds it hysterical when the locals treat a centimetre of snow like a ski run !!

And, was given a bucket of salt from village community 🤩

There's no liability if you clear snow from paths and someone still slips or falls on it. Unless you actively did something to make things worse, like pouring water over the pavement, you'll be fine.

I cant understand why anyone would sit back and moan about someone clearing a shared path. Do your share as well hmm

Because there is absolutely no need to clear 2 inches of snow. Because it is a massive path and it snows so rarely I’d need to find somewhere to store enough salt/grit.Because he avoids being in his house with is even crazier wife at all costs that he will do it at night and you only find out the path has been cleared when you step out the door in the morning. Who’s got the time to get salt and put it down when there was no need to do it in the first place.

We have a grit bin on the corner of the street but unsurprisingly it hasn't be refilled after we last had snow between Christmas and New Year. Local shop has sold out of rock salt and table salt!

Hopefully it'll all wash away overnight but if it stays this cold it will be treacherous for the kids getting to school tomorrow.

I try to stay on top of it but usually fall arse over t*t!!

Just to add, why would you go to the trouble of clearing snow if you’re not planning on putting something down. Surely you know it will result in a path of ice and you wouldn’t be passive aggressive enough to wait for a neighbour to do it. Especially if the neighbour hasn’t indicated that they want the path cleared.

That's nothing. A few years back I saw a neighbour clearing snow by throwing buckets of water on it. The day time temperatures were below 0˚c so guess what happened next?

Why would they waste their time?
More snow is expected in Glasgow this afternoon.
I've spent the morning pulling DD about the garden in a sledge, I've probably made a ice-rink.

but it doesn't necessarily result in a path of ice, less likely in fact than a path of snow that's been walked on. It is always seen as neighbourly where I'm from if you go and clean everyone else's walks as well as your own! Not to mention being fined if you don't do it. If you clean it properly, it will generally melt and dry up. If it does freeze again, so will the packed snow, so you're not really better off, and the packed down snow will last for much longer. Fresh snow is only nice to walk on once or twice. Countries with plenty of snow expect it to be cleared! It's not 'going to the trouble', it's doing what is expected, necessary, and socially acceptable.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8443745.stm

By sweeping snow from one part of the pavement to another, if done in a manner that caused injury to someone, there is a chance legal action could be taken against you on the basis you had created a nuisance under tort law.

But, Paul Kitson, a partner with leading personal injury solicitors Russell Jones & Walker, explains that a claimant would have to show you had acted either maliciously or carelessly, and that such a case would often be tricky in practice.

"It would be quite difficult to prove and quite difficult to proceed with a claim."

Snow being cleared off a path in Germany
This man is bound by law to clear the snow away
On your own land, it is a different matter. In England and Wales, you owe visitors a duty under the Occupiers Liability Act 1984 to take reasonable care to ensure that they are reasonably safe. So if you know someone is likely to walk up your garden path, like the milkman, and you know it's slippery, you must take reasonable steps to clear it and grit it if necessary.

It's not true that you'll get fined for clearing a path if someone falls. The person walking there still has a responsibility to be aware of the weather and be careful, to be held responsible as others have said you would have to do it really really badly.

Cleared but no salt isn't as good as salt/grit, but it's a lot better than doing nothing.

I have recently sat through a lot of town council meetings about grit! The above myths are causing major problems, because there are whole areas of town where everyone expects the council to magic the snow away from instead of doing it themselves. End result ice rinks everywhere.

I find it bizarre that you are being smug about not even bothering to try and make things better for your neighbourhood.

If you know it's going to be warm enough to melt in the afternoon, that's one thing but if you know it will snow again soon much better to clear it now and prevent packed ice forming from trodden down snow.