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Not to understand the difference between affect and effect?

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Tinseltower · 12/01/2018 21:46

I looked up the definitions and still none the wiser. Been in a school revision site and still don’t get it! What is wrong with me! If anyone can explain to me very simply and with examples I’d really appreciate it!

OP posts:
KasunnaMattata · 12/01/2018 22:31

Affect relates to emotions...

FridgeCut · 12/01/2018 22:33

The arrow affects the aardvark. As long as I can remember that I am sorted.

Eolian · 12/01/2018 22:37

Practise is a verb, practice is a noun. But if you're not used to noticing which words are verbs and which are nouns, that will require a bit of thought every time you're trying to work out which to use.

Ratinthehat · 12/01/2018 22:38

I really need to learn what nouns and verbs are. I'm feeling really dumb reading this.

toconclude · 12/01/2018 22:42

YANBU to be confused, but please ignore all the posters claiming that the difference is that one is a verb and the other a noun as they are simply wrong. "Effect" can perfectly well be a verb.
The correct answer is given by ehct together with examples of use,

drquin · 12/01/2018 22:42

Rat simplistically, nouns are "things" e.g. mug, towel or in the case of "effect", an emotion. Verbs are "doing words", e.g. running, jumping, crying.

toconclude · 12/01/2018 22:48

Ratinthehat:
Assuming you really want to know and are not just being humorous:
At the most basic level:
noun=what you call something eg school, house, dog, bus, child - and also more abstract stuff like justice, practice, skill [hence effect and affect can both also be nouns]
verb=when you do something eg run, walk, write, jump, sit and all the variations according to who's doing them and when

Knowing the technical terms is less important than using them effectively in writing and speech.

toconclude · 12/01/2018 22:49

drquin I think you meant to say "affect" is an emotion?

idontlikealdi · 12/01/2018 22:56

The effect of the rain is affecting my house.

You can’t be ‘effecting’ something so if you can manipulate to affecting you can make it make sense.

sproutsandparsnips · 12/01/2018 22:59

But you can be 'effecting change' surely?

idontlikealdi · 12/01/2018 23:03

You can have an effect on change or affect change but you wouldn’t personally be effecting change.

I think.

windowdresser44 · 12/01/2018 23:03

I get asked this at least once a month at work. I seem to be the designated office affect / effect expert.

I didn't realise affect could be a noun though. Confused

windowdresser44 · 12/01/2018 23:04

Yes you can effect change. That's one of my stock examples. (Unless I'm very wrong)

PurpleDaisies · 12/01/2018 23:05

You can have an effect on change or affect change but you wouldn’t personally be effecting change.

I personally effected a change in marking policy in school. It affected the average time spent marking with no adverse effect on student performance.

toconclude · 12/01/2018 23:07

windowdresser44:

no, you are right. If I gave up alcohol (haha) I would be effecting a change in my habits.

StepAwayFromGoogle · 12/01/2018 23:07

I affect someone by pushing them. The effect is that they fall over.

toconclude · 12/01/2018 23:08

PurpleDaisies: nice one Smile

Amoregentlemanlikemanner · 12/01/2018 23:08

"I didn't realise affect could be a noun though"

Yes, one of the things that sucked about ds2 having sn was all these people using "affect" as a noun. It did my head in.

Tippexy · 12/01/2018 23:09

@idontlikealdi Utterly wrong I’m afraid! You can indeed effect change.

In the nicest possible way, please don’t comment unless you know you’re right because it only serves to confuse OP further.

Amoregentlemanlikemanner · 12/01/2018 23:14

What if you just think you're right? :)

This is maybe a situation where crowd sourcing is not a good idea :)

Amoregentlemanlikemanner · 12/01/2018 23:15

I don't think you can affect change..... it's not a concept that makes sense :)

PurpleDaisies · 12/01/2018 23:16

I don't think you can affect change..... it's not a concept that makes sense

You could affect the rate of change.

Amoregentlemanlikemanner · 12/01/2018 23:17

Yes, but not change itself :)

idontlikealdi · 12/01/2018 23:18

@Tippexy thanks for that but I’m effecting change isn’t grammatically correct.

StepAwayFromGoogle · 12/01/2018 23:20

Oh, and re: practice/practise. Someone once told me to substitute for advice/advise in the sentence and you'll get the right one. For example, if someone is following best practice - you'd say 'best advice' rather than 'best advise' so you know you got the right spelling.
I'm not sure I explained that very well!

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