Nursery transitioning 17mo into toddler room

[kaytee87]

Bit of background- my 17mo goes to nursery 2, or more recently 3 mornings a week. Due to an injury I have been unable to collect him in 6 weeks. My dh has been dropping him off and mil collecting. I have been in contact with the nursery by email & telephone though.

Mil came home yesterday and mentioned that they had started transitioning ds into toddler room after the holidays. They've not discussed this with either dh or myself at all! Toddler room is only 1-5 ratio (1-3 in baby room). I thought he'd be in baby room until he was 2 (or near enough). Ds is unsettled just now anyway, due to me being injured he has had lots of other people looking after him recently and he's been ill a couple of times himself (ear infection, flu, v&d) which nursery know about as he was off sick.

Am I being unreasonable to think that they should have discussed this with us before deciding he's moving (new key-worker etc) and also is 5-1 ratio not too high for his age?

I have since spoken to them on the phone and said perfectly politely that I don't want him moved at the moment as he has too much going on at home and I also queried the ratio and said I thought it had to be 1-3 for under 2yo.

Is it normal for nurseries to move 17mo into the bigger room without any discussion with parents?

They have definitely not spoken to dh about it. Mil said all the said to her was that he'd been having fun going into the big room since coming back from holiday and that's when I emailed the nursery to ask what was going on.
He's about average size for his age, he was very confident until recently when he has become more clingy with me as his routine has gone out the window with people in and out all the time to help look after him as I can't pick him up/walk etc. at the moment. He was previously good at sleeping in his room, occasionally waking for a quick cuddle but now he screams to come into bed with me. I think he's been upset by so much change recently at home.

He only started walking at 14 months, still falls over and can't run yet so I don't think he's bulldozing the other 1yo's in his room
He has a just turned 3yo cousin who knocks him flying half the time when they play.

Why are you waiting till you are fit? Get the manager to phone you back and discuss. If they are actually breaking the rules that is not on - and if they are in fact following them you can be reassured about him going there.

@Mistressiggi I've already spoken to them on the phone and they've agreed they won't be moving him but they want me to tell them when I think he's ready. I will be making sure I'm satisfied with the ratios etc and the ages of the children in each room to make sure he's not being unfairly moved early before I say I'm happy for him to be moved.

1-5 is not even ratio for a 2 year old!

They told me on the phone the ratio in the toddler room is 1:5 and I now have an email from the care inspectorate confirming it should be 1:3 for under 2s.

1-5 is not even ratio for a 2 year old!

It is in Scotland. 0-2 1:3, 2-3 1:5, 3-5 1:8

Yes 1 to 3 for under twos

1 to 4 for two year olds

1 to 8 for 3 and 4 year olds unless a teacher present

Ah i did not realise you are in scotland

How odd that its different

Are the people saying their 1 yo happily moved into the 'toddler room' talking about a 1-2 year old room rather than a 2-3 year old room?
Some nurseries do split under 2s into babies and toddlers but that is very different to putting an under 2 into an over 2s room.

@Marcine I don't think a lot of people have read anything I've written at all tbh, feel like I keep repeating myself.

Hi I work in a private nursery in Scotland and you are correct the ratio is 1:5 for ages 2 to 3. He should not be moving up unless there is going to be a spare member of staff to maintain his 1:3 ratio. 17 months is far to young to be in the toddler room. In my nursery they don't even start visits until they are 23 months and when the child is visiting their 1:3 ratio has to be maintained as stated by the Care Inspectorate.

The nursery should have discussed with you before hand their intentions to move him. That aside they are breaking Care Inspectorate rules and if I was you I would tell them this when you raise your concerns

No my DDs Nursery (admittedly in england) didn't seperate the the 1 year olds from the 2 year olds, however they do maintain ratios of 1:3, and usually they're not moved until 18-20 months.

DDs Nursery have 4 rooms, 0-18m, 1-2, 18m-3 and 2.5-4 though with a lot of crossover of ages and children often skip rooms or move around due to staff/children shortages regularly so they're used to at least the next aged room.

Each of my dc were put straight into toddler room when they joined daycare at 13months. They had started walking at 9 months and would have stomped the crawlers in the baby room

Yep transitioning started without them informing me but they did it over a couple a months.