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Another man getting off lightly after serious sexual crimes

37 replies

PoirotDidIt · 09/01/2018 21:56

... apparently due to "mental health issues" caused by chemo and isolation. Hmm Angry

From the Liverpool Echo:

A Merseyside police officer caught with a stash of 1,500 indecent images of children today walked free from court.
PC Darren Wright , who was sacked in October, admitted downloading, possessing and sharing pictures of child sex abuse.
But he was spared jail after Liverpool Crown Court heard how he suffered mental health problems after twice battling leukaemia.

Apparently the stash included 23 Category A images – the most serious category in sentencing guidelines – involving child rape.
... Describing the pictures, Mr Jones told the court: “One of those is notably a very, very young child indeed.”
...
James Hamilton, defending, said his client’s health difficulties had “a significant impact upon the reason why he offended”.

WTAF?
AIBU to think that mental health problems don't suddenly turn a normal person into a peadophile? How disgusting towards those who suffer mentally precisely because of creeps like this!
Apparently he gathered the collection over a two-year period so hardly a moment of madness!

But creepy sick men who put their own sexual pleasure before anything or anyone else - meh apparently that's fine.

How the fuck have they decided he "poses little risk"?! Angry

OP posts:
Kit1411 · 09/01/2018 22:07

And he was a police officer!!?

Mustardnowletsnotbesilly · 09/01/2018 22:08

A exfriend of mine was found to have 1000s of pics on his computer of children, he said it started when he was depressed an only got 5 months!!!!!!! Crazy!!!!

Sunnyjac · 09/01/2018 22:23

This makes me so mad 😡 What about all the 1000s of people who battle cancer and/or have mental health problems who don’t do this kind of thing? Those things are no excuse or reason to download such images. People do it because they choose to

SavvyFishFinger · 09/01/2018 22:26

Yes, of course. That well documented side effect of cancer treatment that turns people into peadophiles. Hmm

Jigglytuff · 09/01/2018 22:27

And the two police people who decided to take Katrina O'Hara's phone as evidence so she had no way of getting in touch with them when her violent ex-lover came into her salon and murdered her were disciplined. She's dead, they got a slap on the hand. This guy is a child rapist and gets off.

The criminal justice system in this country is rotten to the core.

PoirotDidIt · 10/01/2018 12:07

What I can't understand is the way his mental health and other things (eg. illness and loss of career due to this) were taken into account at all. I thought "mitigating circumstances" had to be (a) relevent, and (b) only applied to murder/manslaughter. I know someone (female) who was convicted of crimes when seriously mentally unwell - nothing taken into account there (and much lower level and obviously related to her mental health type crimes!)

It's only men who get to be seen as humans, yeh?

From womeninprison.org.uk:

Women account for a disproportionate amount of self-harm in prison; despite making up only 5% of the population women accounted for 21% of all incidents of self-harm in prison in the year to June 2016.

Women in custody are five times more likely to have a mental health concern than women in the general population.

46% of women in prison report having attempted suicide at some point in their lifetime. This is twice the rate of men (21%) and more than seven times higher than the general population.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 10/01/2018 12:13

Oh I've heard it all now. It's any fucking excuse to get away with abuse these days.
Oh and being a P.O obviously helps.
We've all got our demons. However most of us thankfully do not think that gives us a free pass to become a disgusting paedo.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 10/01/2018 12:16

And people wonder why vigilantes happen.
I mean after you cant rely on the law to protect our children from these disgusting beasts, can you.

PinkChestnut · 10/01/2018 12:17

That is fucking disgusting Angry

So those raped children he wanked off to don't matter then?

This basically screams the message out that getting off to child abuse is A-ok. Just say you felt down. Unbelievable

ChattyLion · 10/01/2018 12:21

This is disgusting. How can it have any credibility.

monkey1978 · 10/01/2018 12:26

Once I had left high school one of our teachers, who was head of year 7, got caught with child pornography on his computer. When he was sentenced the judge let him off with a lighter sentence (I cant remember exactly what he got) because he had such a long distinguished career as a teacher!!! I couldn't believe this, them man obviously had a thing for children and instead of trying to avoid temptation actively sought a career when he could surround himself with children, and got off with a lighter sentence because of it!!!

PinkChestnut · 10/01/2018 12:33

Its utterly depressing.

What can we do?!

Goldenhandshake · 10/01/2018 12:34

I feel like I live in the twilight zone sometimes... how the fuck has his chemotherapy been linked to his offences at all? Since when does cancer turn you into a peadophile Hmm

Are there any petitions/protests against this shit, I would gladly join/sign up.

swingingSixties · 10/01/2018 12:34

What do the women in prison stats have to do with the original post? I don't think MH or prison is likely to be a good starting block for suggesting it's women who suffer.

"How the fuck have they decided he "poses little risk"?!"

I would like to see him locked up in the general population after having his crimes announced. However, I think it's clear what is being spoken about when they mention 'little risk'. As despicable as he and his crimes are, there are worse people involved; those who took the photographs for example. Perhaps they wouldn't have made the images if there wasn't a 'market' for them but I can see why he could be considered as not a risk.

ChickenPaws · 10/01/2018 12:37

Child abuse images are seen as relatively harmless by judges because the offender hasn’t physically harmed a child so it’s therefore a lesser offence. Obviously they’re massively missing the point, but I think it’s gradually becoming more accepted that people will get up to these things and it can’t really be policed. Give it long enough and it’ll become mainstream sadly.

The judges obviously lack the intelligence and depth of thinking required to realise that there are real children being damaged for life in these vile images.

I think the govt need to work on blocking access to these websites. It is possible for internet providers to restrict access to the dark web, so why isn’t it being done?

PinkChestnut · 10/01/2018 12:40

"Give it long enough and it’ll become mainstream sadly."

That's my fear too. It's more and more getting treated with a shrug and a "oh what's he like" attitude. It's horrific.

Buck3t · 10/01/2018 12:43

@poirotdidit I know someone (female) who was convicted of crimes when seriously mentally unwell - nothing taken into account there (and much lower level and obviously related to her mental health type crimes!)

Eve was Framed by Baroness Helena Kennedy might help to explain. Nothing has changed since then clearly.

DeleteOrDecay · 10/01/2018 12:49

Absolutely disgusting. What has chemo got to do with being a dirty peado?

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 10/01/2018 12:51

Well doesn't surprise me. Look at the thread where an OP is demanding we all stop advising her to teach her 6 year old son not to comment on girl's underwear.

swingingSixties · 10/01/2018 12:53

"It is possible for internet providers to restrict access to the dark web"

Firstly, no it isn't.

Secondly, I'm not quite sure what you think the dark web is but I use it to read the NY Times.

The internet is extremely hard to police. It's what makes it wonderful. Couts, ISPs, law enforcement and others can't even shut down thepiratebay on The Internet where people get their free music and films. This isn't even the deep web. It's indexed by major search engines. When sites and files aren't indexed the police and ISPs have almost no chance.

PinkChestnut · 10/01/2018 12:59

I'd like to see the sentence for this being one single bullet to the head. That would dry up the problem.

ChickenPaws · 10/01/2018 13:00

I wonder how my internet provider has managed to restrict access to the dark web then.

swingingSixties · 10/01/2018 13:08

ChickenPaws

It hasn't. You're mistaken or lying.

www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/how-to-access-the-deep-web-and-darknet/

HTH

ChickenPaws · 10/01/2018 13:21

I know how to use tor and access it thanks. Pages still end up blocked.

swingingSixties · 10/01/2018 13:30

On the off chance you're telling the truth, try a pluggable transport and bridge relay.