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were moving to the highlands for self build

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roses88 · 09/01/2018 13:52

hi all I have just joined mums net and getting use to it this is my first thread so me my oh and 2 young kids will be moving from London to the highlands I'm am so scared of the move as we have lives here for 15 years and well settled I just feel its the right thing for my kids I am planning on living in a static I'm not sure how well that will work but I'm up for the challenge we are building our family home its just I live in a real nice area as it is and kids have a lot of activity's to do here but I feel in the long run they will benefit I moved quite a lot when we was younger also lived in the highlands when I was little I feel outdoor life is more important than basic London activity's. I feel I can talk to anyone I'm very social and don't think It will be a problem for me to socialise I just worry their will be no one to socialise with lol and one live near golspie or tain ways can give any advice on keeping kids busy and me I do drive and don't mind driving places to do things beach isn't too fare from us and I think holidays will be bust I don't really know what this threads for I feel to wright it ,,

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LostinLSpace · 09/01/2018 13:58

Local boards might be your friend here Tain and Golspie are small areas but Inverness not too far away and there's plenty of stuff to do with kids in the area

GrimDamnFanjo · 09/01/2018 14:04

Have you lived in the Highlands or Scotland before?

SpyWhoDippedMe · 09/01/2018 14:06

planning on living in a static
Do you mean a static caravan? I lived in one for a few years as a child, horrible, condensation and mold.
Good luck with your move, but please please think carefully about the above, if that's what you plans are.

Cocoloco75 · 09/01/2018 14:12

I used to live up that way when my first child was born, but even more rurally.... think half hour drive to Tain from inland.

While it’s beautiful, I found it extremely isolating and hated nearly every moment of the 3.5 years we lived up there, but then my OH worked away and I was on my own most of the time with a baby and no friends or family. Winter was cold, miserable and just generally yuck. Had to drive 10 miles just to the nearest shop/petrol station/GP/nursery etc and then an hour to Dingwall for nearest Tesco as nowhere did online shopping delivery to where we lived, but at least there is now Asda and Tesco in Tain.

I think the best way to get on up there is to throw yourself into the local community and get involved in everything in order to make friends and this can take time as some people don’t take too well to incomers and can take a while to feel welcome. And for the sake of your kids dont live too remotely unless that’s what you are all into, but moving from London, I can’t imagine it is. It will be a massive culture shock for you even if you have spent time in the highlands in the past, as you have kids now and will need to drive all the time.

Beaches at Golspie and Embo/Dornoch are lovely though. If you are all really up for it, with the right location and attitude, no doubt it could work out for you, all the best.

HirplesWithHaggis · 09/01/2018 14:13

Have you actually bought land and checked out what permissions you need?

Seniorcitizen1 · 09/01/2018 14:21

If you post again please use sentences, full stops and paragraphs.

Fantasticmissfoxy · 09/01/2018 14:27

Golspie and Tain are lovely, but would be too 'small Town' for me and I've lived in North East Scotland for most of my life.

My advice would be to seriously consider buying a house / plot IN one of these wee towns so you and the kids can bike / walk places and the children can play out with friends. You don't need to live in the back of beyond to have an outdoor lifestyle.

If you like that area, look at Cromarty, Strathpeffer and Dornoch as well - all have very walkable town centres and shops etc.

Also, do not live in a static. It will be freezing, damp, noisy and cramped. There are plenty of apartments in all these wee towns to rent while you build.

Katedotness1963 · 09/01/2018 14:37

Living year round in a static caravan in the north of Scotland? You're brave!!

manicinsomniac · 09/01/2018 14:43

Wow. I would want to be very, very sure that this is what you all want and will be happy with before doing this.

A home in London and London activities for my children (and me!) is my absolute dream so I'm not the right person to understand you making this move but, honestly, I think many or most people would struggle to be happy with what you are proposing.

How old are your children? Any idea which way their interests are inclining yet? Because if they want to do lots of performing arts based or large group activities then I think this move would be detrimental to them rather then positive. If they're more outdoorsy, nature lovers who like exploring and independence then yes, I'm sure they will prefer the highlands life.

I can see many massive pros to highlands life for a child (not so many for an adult if I'm brutally honest) but there are also big cons to consider too.

It all comes down to what suits your individual family though.

florascotianew · 09/01/2018 15:21

Very best wishes and good luck, OP, but as previous posters have said, there's an awful lot to consider when making a move like this. I'm sure that you will already have put a great deal of thought into this, and I wish you very well. But I live in a remote Highlands place - though not near Tain - and I have seen several people come to settle in our area. Most of them love it, so don't be discouraged. But a few leave quickly, which is a shame. From my own observation, the facets of remote Highland life that most often cause them difficulties/ disappointments are those listed below. Not all these problems apply to all areas - some places close to small towns might have very good facilities - but it might be helpful for you to find out about precise local arrangements for all the following before finally deciding exactly where to build your dream house:

  1. Schooling arrangements- in some areas, even primary children have to travel long distances (almost an hour there and an hour back on the bus); some secondary children have to board all week, or for two or thee nights a week. After-school activities can be difficult to organise if you live far from a school; children's best schoolfriends might live 10 miles or more away, in different directions!
  2. GP surgery can be 20 or 30 miles away; many Highlands GPs are not on duty out of weekday working hours (in some areas, NHS Highland has set up service of local trained volunteer Emergency Responders and employs nurse practitioners or similar, based at GP surgeries, to cover for out-of-hours.) If required, an ambulance can take an hour or more to arrive, if it is not already out on another call. The hospital might be over 50 miles away.
3.No broadband, or only limited and expensive satellite broadband service. No mobile phone reception; phone boxes currently being closed by BT. Satellite services are the only option for TV in some places.
  1. Village shops do their very best to provide a service, but stocks are limited and prices can be high. Newspapers might not arrive until late morning. Fresh fruit and veg might be delivered only once a week.
  2. Main-town supermarkets don't deliver to remote villages.
  3. Online deliveries of other goods can take up to a week longer; many online suppliers charge more to deliver to remote areas or won't deliver at all. This is important if you are going to self-build, because you will require all kinds of fixtures and fittings to be delivered to your site.
  4. No mains water in some places - private supplies can sometimes freeze in winter. No mains gas or drains in many villages, either. Septic tanks can be expensive to empty and/or unblock!
  5. Petrol can be very expensive; minor roads have low priority for gritting, or are not treated at all. Some villages have only one bus a day; some have none.
  6. It is dark in winter; and can be very cold. Wind-chill can make a just-above-zero temperature feel much, much colder.
10. When it comes to building a house, I'm sure that you will already know that building costs can be higher in remote areas than in or close to towns. Depending on your chosen spot, site levelling and preparation - there's a lot of rock in Scotland! - can be very costly, so can digging foundations, trenches for electricity cables, pits for septic tanks etc. Fencing - you might have to keep out deer as well as sheep - is not cheap. There will be (very) good local tradesmen and women with expert knowledge of local conditions, but in remote areas they will be fairly thin on the ground and you might have to wait a long time before they are free to help you.

Having said all that, the Highlands are a great place to live. Don't be put off by what I've said. But do find out - before you start - what local conditions are really like, so you can make plans to achieve what's best for you. The previous poster's suggestion of renting somewhere local while plot-hunting/building sounds good to me. Caravans are great fun in summer, but, as other posters have said, they can be cold, uncomfortable and unhealthy in winter, especially for young children.

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 09/01/2018 16:02

You posted in the "Am I being unreasonable" section, so what is your "is this unreasonable or not" question? Are you or someone you know behaving unreasonably and you wanted to discuss it?

Bowerbird5 · 09/01/2018 16:10

You could probably live in a holiday cottage in the winter which would be much better than a static. Love that area. I lived further around on the Moray Firth for ten years and loved it. It was in a village though.
Have you bought the land already?

LostinLSpace · 11/01/2018 10:41

FWIW OP we lived in a static for 4 years in the highlands, my DP for 5 and it really isn't that bad. We put a log burning stove in and had extra heaters from the bedroom to keep it cosy :)

TheDailyMailIsADisgustingRag · 11/01/2018 10:49

Not quite the same, but I’ve lived in a very flimsy flat, with single glazing and no central heating in Edinburgh and it was actually fine. We had a fan heater in the living room and some storage heater type things in the bedrooms. I think it’s definitely doable. We lived there for two years.

I’ve also lived in a Scottish Highland town, so I’m aware what the weather’s like there.

I’ve no advice really the build / move etc, but if it goes well it sounds amazing! I’m a bit envious Envy!

toolonglurking · 11/01/2018 10:52

I live in a remote part of Scotland, having grown up in a major southern city, so my advice is:

  • Find local facebook groups, they will give you an idea of what's available locally.
  • if you know your postcode already check the local supermarket will deliver.
  • have you factored in the additional delivery costs for building your house? Check out their 'Highlands and Islands' surcharge, it's fucking annoying.
  • buy decent, warm waterproof clothes for your kids. They are expensive but very worth it.
JockTamsonsBairns · 11/01/2018 10:58

I'll start by saying, the Scottish Highlands is quite frankly one of the most beautiful places on our planet. Fact. Can I just ask though, have you ever been up there? As in, spent a period of time up there to get a real feel of the place you're planning to settle in? It's just that London to Golspie is a bit of a culture shock!

MsHomeSlice · 11/01/2018 11:06

Have you really checked on the available activities?? Just because it's scenic and wild doesn't mean there's stuff to do. I'd be extremely surprised if there was anything more exotic than a under resourced Brownie pack at the local primary.

ime scenic and wild means isolated, quiet, under populated, NO facilities (40 minutes to the local tesco) and masses of tourists the minute the weather improves.

GlitterUnicornsAndAllThatJazz · 11/01/2018 11:33

Your kids will grow up more aware and with a better understanding of different lives and experiences in London.

I have a feeling you are going to end up feeling isolated and bored.

Move to the countryside in essex/sussex so you can keep your network and London for day trips.

FluffyWuffy100 · 11/01/2018 11:36

Sounds like a horrific idea and your confused 'steam of consciousness' writing style doesn't lead me to think you have considered it carefully.

MedicinalGin · 11/01/2018 13:08

Hmm. I was born in the highlands and lived near beauly all my life until I went to university.
It’s beautiful and ridiculously wholesome in some ways. However, I really valued being near Inverness and was so happy not to live further out.
OP you are making a massive life change here. Are you sure this is what you actually want or are you just moving on a whim? A static caravan sounds like hell on earth tbh- have you ever stayed in one during midwinter? Do you have support nearby? And how old are your kids? I would be very wary of doing this without doing a LOT of research first. It’s not something you can just back out of as soon as the nights draw in and it gets chilly.

TheWernethWife · 11/01/2018 18:16

My daughter moved near Inverness over 20 years ago, was hard work when the kids were small. Nothing for them to do, having to drive them to doctors/dentist/swimming lessons etc as the buses ran one every hour. She still is there but the kids have left and have both gone to live in cities where there are better job opportunities and much better transport.

specialsubject · 11/01/2018 18:19

You can get outdoors even in London.

Planning permission? Financial plans? Not married I see. Work?

Rudgie47 · 11/01/2018 18:29

Good luck with making new friends up there.Have you any idea how hard it is?
There was an advise line for people suffering from Racism set up in Scotland, they thought it would be foreign people ringing up wanting support. It wasnt it was all English people feeling victimized.
I know people with children who moved up near Stirling and they were just nice everyday people. Could they make new friends, no chance. People are just not open to it unless you have been born and bred in the area.

restbiterepeat · 11/01/2018 18:38

Self build, static caravans, a vague idea that you are moving towards a superior way of living...Just remember, if you invite Kevin McCloud around that you'll be pregnant by the second set of adverts.

Fantasticmissfoxy · 11/01/2018 18:44

Rudgie I'm sorry that your friends had trouble fitting in, but saying that all of Scotland is racist and unwelcome is a massive generalization and very very unfair.

I'm born and raised in the North of Scotland and I have friends who I see and socialise with every week from America, Norway, Venezuela, France and yes, even England 😒 . We're not all swivel-eyed inbred haggis munchers you know, so kindly keep your rather bigoted remarks to yourself.

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