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Clearing homeless in Windsor for the royal wedding

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user764329056 · 04/01/2018 06:19

WTAF? I remember fences were built to hide the ‘ unsightly’ townships in South Africa when they hosted the World Cup. I truly can’t believe this, heaven forbid the royals should see real life which might offend their sensibilities. As the old joke says the queen thinks the whole country smells of paint as there are people running around ahead of them sprucing everything up. Yes, we mustn’t present Windsor in an unfavourable light must we, nobody needs to be bothered by those pesky homeless.

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harshbuttrue1980 · 04/01/2018 16:52

The Royal family like to spout about charity, but they don't actually DO anything. If Kate even sold off the old clothes she will never wear again ("recycling" for Kate means wearing the same outfit twice!), or the Queen sold even one of her pieces of jewelry, a new hostel could be built in Windsor. Kate has so many dresses and the Queen so much jewelry, they wouldn't even miss it. The queen could also put pressure on the PM at their weekly audience. If the Queen asked for homelessness to be a priority, any of the PM's we've had would have done it.

I have my hopes on Megan as someone who was involved in charity work before she became royal. Maybe she will actually do something about poverty instead of spouting about it while wearing expensive dresses. Kate only cares about shopping and hair, William is lazy and entitled. Harry and Megan could be the future face of a really caring and active royal family.

corythatwas · 04/01/2018 17:12

If the homeless in my city are bussed in for the day, that must be one late-running night bus. Whatever time of evening or night I walk through the city centre, they are still there, huddled in doorways or on the pavement.

The local church run their soup kitchen late in the evening on the High Street: since all the homeless have, supposedly, gone home to their comfortable housing, I don't know who is eating the food.

BarbarianMum · 04/01/2018 17:28

Not all homeless people are rough sleepers.
Not all beggars are homeless.
"Professional" beggars impersonating homeless people and travelling to pitches where they can maximise the money they make is a "thing"
Criminal gangs making trafficked individuals work as beggars and sending them to affluent areas (modern day slavery) is also a thing.

user764329056 · 04/01/2018 17:31

SomeOldFogey, great post👍🏼

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 04/01/2018 17:40

If Dear Queenie Princes Princess Dukes and Duthess so worried about the poor lying around on the streets I'm sure they have enough spare rooms in the palace.

Birdsgottafly · 04/01/2018 17:53

"Wouldn't it be nice if Harry and Meghan thought, I know - why don't we share our day with the people who are fucking paying for it? How about donating something to local homeless shelters as a thank you to the normal people of Windsor whose day with be disputed by this big old do. "

Harry makes it perfectly clear that his interest in 'the disadvantaged' is outside of the UK. Him and MM made the point of stating that they would be focusing their Charity work together outside of the UK.

"sometimes someone whos homeless comes into the hospital and ive witnessed on several times new clothes (strangely always from marks and spencer)"

You'll see a lot of ex M&S stock on markets, they also send a large amount to Charities, including Homeless Hostels etc.

"I live in Windsor and have done all my life. In the last couple of years rough sleepers have appeared - I never saw anyone homeless before, and I imagine they were elsewhere"

The four people interviewed across the media have all been made Homeless in the last eighteen months because of the changes in Benefits. It's true that they have been offered accommodation, but in Slough and further out. The person who was offered Slough, couldn't then travel back to see family, including his elderly Mum.

It's always depressing that people don't make themselves aware to what's happening to others. Windsor is cleansing itself of the poor, as is a lot of Southern boroughs.

Birdsgottafly · 04/01/2018 17:54

Giraffefluff just out of interest, but why aren't you connecting the sudden appearance of British Homeless people with the changes in Benefits?

NameChanger22 · 04/01/2018 18:04

The Queen was quite happy to inflict more austerity on the country, which has directly resulted in more people becoming homeless, now she wants to hide the problem from their eyes whilst they waste stupid amounts of money on a stupid wedding.

The Royal Family are grotesque and disgusting. Wake up people.

FrostyThirties0 · 04/01/2018 18:10

Someone homeless in Windsor being offered a place in slough is perfectly reasonable. It’s a very short distance.

The homeless aren’t just spread out around Windsor, they are deliberately sleeping outside of the castle to attract tourists. It’s extremely unsettling to walk around that area in its current state. Not the feeling to want to portray to the rest of the world when you want them to come here and spend their money.

corythatwas · 04/01/2018 18:27

How rude of them, trying to attract people's attention when they are homeless and have no other means of sustenance than begging! You'd think they'd have the decency to go and sit somewhere where they can't be seen.

FrostyThirties0 · 04/01/2018 18:33

Do you enjoy being harrassed when on holiday?

BarbarianMum · 04/01/2018 18:35

Offering someone who's homeless in Windsor a home is Slough is fine, they are very close together and there are frequent buses/trains. Apart from anything the local job centre/benefits office is in Slough so if they are in Windsor they'll have to trog the other way often enough.

bestthings · 04/01/2018 18:46

Get a grip. The royals do more for the charity than you do OP
How do you know that, and really the effort involved in what the royals do for charity is minimal and hardly requires much more that putting their name to something. If the royals were to give to charity the equivalent of their income as to what us commoners give it would amount to millions. I'm pretty certain that doesn't happen.

Probably the only other notable thing they do for charity is only slightly more tiring, turning up for a free lunch at some charity event held in their honour. Hardy worthy of much praise, they have to do something to justify the lavish lifestyle given to them by taxpayers.

Gran22 · 04/01/2018 20:07

antigonads A good question to dingo. It's tragic when the people who should be supporting teenagers, ie their mums and dads don't, won't or can't. I used to interview people coming to the local authority as homeless, there was help for the under 18s but it often wasn't where you'd want your own children to live! 18 and above, much depended on individual circumstances as to whether there was help or not.

user764329056 · 04/01/2018 21:19

There is a petition on Change.org, sorry can’t do clicky link, please sign if you are like-minded

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AtrociousCircumstance · 04/01/2018 21:24

You cannot believe in equality and support the idea of the monarchy.

Mutually exclusive.

Austentatious · 04/01/2018 21:28

@giraffefluff - have you noticed a very recent spike in the numbers of people sitting out? I have - in the last two months. I have however also noticed a distinction between the rough sleepers (the girl outside M&S trying to get a safe kip during the daytime) and those who sit in sleeping bags along the roadsides around the theatre as panto chucks out / opposite the castle and make no attempt whatsoever to take shelter when it's pouring with rain and are openly begging. Before today's news report, I have been convinced that there are people going to windsor to beg, and there are homeless rough sleepers trying to live in windsor. I think there are more of the former than the latter. The latter are the ones who need the urgent assistnace.

halfwitpicker · 04/01/2018 21:31

Wonder what Meg will wear?

FrostyThirties0 · 04/01/2018 21:33

Oh yes I’ve seen them get off the train and head to the bridge to sit on and beg!

TDHManchester · 04/01/2018 21:41

I think all the "beggars vagrants and homeless rough sleepers" should converge on Windsor and stay there. What will they do then? Shoot them? have them repatriated on trains? This isnt really a Royal issue. Having said that the Royals claim to own so much land,all stolen from the people. Charles,, the massive Duchys of Lancaster and Cornwall,,all stolen land and yet somehow he "owns" it. And we are supposed to doff our caps and be grateful? The public know their places. The ragged trousered philanthropists. A good Royal wedding will make them feel much better eh?

HelenaDove · 04/01/2018 21:53

I am completely unsurprised to see on this thread that the MNers bashing the homeless are the same ones who bash social housing tenants.

So even if they did get off the streets certain ppl would still be "othering" them.

Not all homeless ppl are on drugs. There are many different reasons from domestic abuse to benefit changes to Universal Credit to widowhood.

user764329056 · 04/01/2018 22:08

Maybe the homeless should be rounded up and sent to the Tower, or off with their heads, maybe there’s even time to open a workhouse

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cathyclown · 04/01/2018 22:13

There is no way any homeless vagrants whether genuine or not will be allowed within a mile of the camera lens of this upcoming wedding.

Security reasons.

The other issues about them will be parked for another day.

BigBaboonBum · 04/01/2018 22:16

The reason the royal family spout on about charity is so that people can say “they do loads for charity”, when in reality if they just didn’t refurbish their house and upgrade their homes all the time it could feed all the homeless in our country plus Home them and have spares to rehabilitate those with problems, throw a load into our nhs and still have spares.

On top of it they hide money offshore and don’t even put back into taxes to help the country!!!

The royal family is an outdated concept, we would be better off to get rid. People come to see the sights, not the family. It’s a ridiculous excuse for keeping them

HelenaDove · 04/01/2018 22:20

"Harry makes it perfectly clear that his interest in 'the disadvantaged' is outside of the UK. Him and MM made the point of stating that they would be focusing their Charity work together outside of the UK"

I get the impression these causes are seen as trendier.