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To tell you all that... (Daily Mail related)

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QuestionableMouse · 31/12/2017 12:52

A while ago the daily mail stole a phone I posted on here and used it and the thread for a story on their website.

I emailed them and complained. They apologised and sent me a cheque for £60 for the use of the photo.

No doubt they'll keep stealing content from here but if they take something you've posted and use it, contact them and complain. You might get a bit of cash out of it too.

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Bubbaleo · 31/12/2017 12:55

Good one mouse. Cheeky buggers!

Bananalanacake · 31/12/2017 13:00

I'd be tempted to make up a load of bollocks and see if they use it then feel stupid when it's not true but that's probably trolling.

Rebeccaslicker · 31/12/2017 13:03

I don't think it's stealing content in terms of text as it's a public forum and they quote the source, whereas copyright in the photo remains with whoever took it (see the monkey selfie photo for a example). But an IP lawyer could easily correct me there as I may well be wrong.

But it's absolutely the worst sort of shoddy shitty lazy fucking journalism and the so-called "journalists" who lift stories from here can fuck right off.

gingergenius · 31/12/2017 13:05

I was wondering how they could steal a phone from a mumsnet thread. Realise you meant photo!!

BackforGood · 31/12/2017 13:26

Thing is, you'd have to be reading the Fail, to notice.
I wouldn't have the foggiest if they lifted something I wrote from here.

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QuestionableMouse · 31/12/2017 13:27

I don't read it, someone sent me the link to the story.

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Msqueen33 · 31/12/2017 13:32

I saw the sun had nicked the post on here about the girl coming home from her dad’s with blue hair.

KathyBeale · 31/12/2017 13:34

I am a journalist (well, ex-journo) so a bit biased but I don’t think it is lazy journalism. It’s just journalism - reporting what people are talking about. Obviously it’s not hard news but in terms of human interest it’s solid gold.

I’m not sure it would be my first port of call if I were the news editor and personally I wouldn’t pull the story straight from the forum but approach it in a different way (that is a bit lazy) but it’s definitely fair game in my opinion. Especially when things go viral like ‘penis beaker’.

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QuestionableMouse · 31/12/2017 18:16

It is lazy and in my mind it is stealing. They're taking and using something without permission. If they want to use people's stories, they should ask first.

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Somerford · 31/12/2017 18:23

I think it's lazy and it's questionable in terms of ethics but this is an open forum when all is said and done. Anyone can visit this site and read any thread they like, it's a well known forum with a lot of traffic so we shouldn't delude ourselves about privacy here. Anything you post is in the public domain. It's not just the Daily Mail lifting content from MN, threads from this forum appear on click bait type websites all the time and Metro.co.uk probably publishes MN threads as often as the Daily Mail does. That's just the way it is and I don't expect it to change any time soon.

Gifffola · 31/12/2017 18:25

Tbh I don’t think it’s lazy journalism either

Buzz feeds “34 celebrities you didn’t know were gay” however Hmm

BarbaraofSevillle · 31/12/2017 18:29

Well I've been quoted several times in the DM and The Times, who didn't even acknowledge me, so I might complain to them if they're handing out cash like this.

NC4now · 31/12/2017 18:30

See, I’m a journalist too, and I don’t like thread lifting.
I feel sorry for those reporters working at the likes of Mail Online and Mirror Online who never get out of the office and spend their days trawling the internet for the next quick read. No-one goes into the business to do that.
I get that in order to have 24 hour rolling news and entertainment you need a constant stream of copy, but if I want to read what people are talking about on Mumsnet, I’ll come on Mumsnet, not Mail Online.

Rebeccaslicker · 31/12/2017 18:39

It's absolutely lazy journalism because they put sod all effort into it. They simply scan mumsnet and copy and paste, not giving a shit about the content or whether it's true or not. It's not a true human interest story where they've bothered to find a story, research it, interview people, take pics etc.

Msqueen33 · 31/12/2017 18:41

See I understand if the topic is a public interest topic. But it’s how they life exactly what is written and there’s no written story. I find that lazy.

extinctspecies · 31/12/2017 18:49

The Times ran a story from here this week. Showing what a slow news week it is between xmas & new year.

CrochetBelle · 31/12/2017 19:04

I saw the sun had nicked the post on here about the girl coming home from her dad’s with blue hair.

Of course they did, that's why Mumsnet put it on 'discussions of the day'.

It's no coincidence.

TenancyTroublesAgain · 31/12/2017 19:50

@Gifffola Buzzfeed is hardly comparable.

spangles1963 · 01/01/2018 17:57

I saw that Rachel Johnson had dedicated a good deal of her column in the DM yesterday to the MN thread about minor inconveniences experienced in staying at other peoples' houses.

MissionItsPossible · 02/01/2018 00:48

Journalism has really gone downhill. I don't know of the physical copies as I don't generally read them but the online versions trip up over themselves so much that articles are posted with shoddy spelling mistakes, mixed up names of people and simply untrue things (I don't mean an editorial slant, I mean things that are not true like saying something was released in 2002 when it was 2000). I don't mind Buzzfeed because at least it is what it is and has never tried to be anything else. But I notice other mainstream newspapers in this country have the same immature manner. As for articles lifting posts from here or Facebook, yes it's pathetic and lazy. I'm sure most here could spin a 500 word article about a long running thread posted in AIBU, mostly filled with quotes from people in the thread and padded out with screenshots of the same quotes to make the article look long.

MoKnickers · 02/01/2018 00:50

Of course it’s not bloody stealing. This is a PUBLIC site. Fgs why can’t people grasp that?

another20 · 02/01/2018 01:28

I think this practice has killed MN.

The level of traffic has gone off a cliff.

If you post for advice in an anonymous forum and it then goes viral in mainstream media with identifying details it would be very distressing.

Is there a log anywhere of all of the threads that have been lifted?

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QuestionableMouse · 03/01/2018 01:29

Photos still belong to the person who took them. They should be asking permission before they use anything.

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slothface · 03/01/2018 01:58

It's not as simple as it being "lazy journalism". Yes it's crap, but more often than not the people writing it are junior reporters being assigned stories by an editor, and they'll have to churn out a minimum number of stories per day. Those editors are under the cosh of the commercial team who are just interested in hits and online ad revenue. This model has been adopted by most online news outlets exactly because of the success of buzzfeed, but the model is imploding in on itself because everyone thinks it's a load of bollocks. The internet ruined journalism, basically

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