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AIBU to not want kids to stay with ex in Poland for a week during term time?

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junebuginmay · 31/12/2017 01:12

My ex partner and I split up a year ago, we just didn't love each other anymore and wanted to end things for everyone's sake. I had no issues with him still seeing the kids, he got a flat a few miles away and our older 2 girls stayed there every Saturday, it was a two bedroom flat so they shared a room like they do at mine. DS (18 months now) was only 6 months when we split up and didn't stay with him until he was a year old, but ex partner didn't mind and understood, I was BFeeding and was recovering from severe PND and was very anxious to be away from him overnight, but DS still saw his dad often, ex would stick around and spend a few hours with him after dropping the girls back at mine. When he turned a year old I let him go to his dad's every Sat with his sisters. It was a good setup, no issues whatsoever.

3 months ago, ex's new Polish girlfriend moved in. He'd been with her a few months prior to her moving in, they got together around 6 months after we split. She seems nice, the kids love her etc. The times I've spoken to her she's been really lovely. Things continued working well, no issues, until earlier this month. Her mother back in Warsaw had been involved in a car accident, and had been injured pretty badly. It would be a long road to recovery for her and she had no other family. The girlfriend wanted to go back to Poland to help her mother (she said she'd be going back for at least a year). Ex wanted to go with her. We all sat down together and explained to the kids what was going on, and ex said he would try and visit for the kid's birthdays and Skype often etc. They left. Since they've gone, he's Skyped every other night, and sent Christmas gifts.

Yesterday was DD's birthday, she turned 11. Ex came back for this, without his girlfriend. DD went to the cinema with her friends and we picked them up, dropped the friends of at home and went for a meal at TGI Friday's. At the dinner table, he says to DD's something along the lines of "You two and your brother are coming to stay with us in Poland for a week in January, are you excited?". I was floored, this was the first I'd heard of it, that was for bloody sure. DD1's reaction was what you would expect from a 14 year old, "Does the place you are staying have internet so I can still use Snapchat?". DD2 got very excited. I asked him what in earth he was going on about, and he said "we'll talk later. Don't ruin the meal."

Later at my house, with DS in bed and DD's up in their room, we talk. He tells me he wants all 3 kids to visit him in Poland for a week, going on the 12th of Jan and returning on the 19th. I said no. I don't want to keep the kids away from him usually, but I'm uncomfortable with my DS being away from me for a week, not because his dad wouldn't take good care of him, but because he's only ever been away from me for one night periods and I don't believe he'd cope well with a plane ride without me and such a big change. As for DD's, I told him I wouldn't mind if it was during the school holidays but I don't want them to miss a week of school just after starting a new term. I said, the girls can go during the next half term but DS stays with me. I suggested maybe I go with the girls on the plane (during half term of course, I was not budging on that) and take DS with me. Me and DS would stay one night so he could spend some time with his dad and then I'd take DS home for the rest of the week as I have work (he goes to a nursery while I work which he loves, so childcare is sorted in that aspect).

Ex was not having it at all. He wants all 3 kids with him, for a week, starting 12th of January as his birthday is on the 15th and he wants it to fall in the middle for some reason. I tried to compromise with him, saying maybe the girls could fly out on the 15th and come back the 16th and then we'd do my other plan (we all fly out in Feb and me and DS go back after one night) in February as well. Nope. He will not compromise with me at all. He went back to Poland this morning but has been calling me and begging me to change my mind. I feel like I've been very reasonable considering everything. I never said the kids couldn't go, just that the date he planned wasn't going to work out so I wanted him to move it forward a few weeks, but he's acting like I've cut all contact all together and I don't think that's fair. Now his sister is having a go at me on Facebook and DD (11) has turned on me because she says "dad says you don't want him to be in our lives anymore". Wtf?

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OrinocoDugong · 31/12/2017 06:58

You are absolutely right not to condone taking the children out of school in term time (especially the one doing GCSEs) or lying to the school. Teaching kids to lie is seriously bad parenting.

By the way the fines for taking kids out of school are per child and per parents and can also be imposed "per session" (ie 10 sessions per week) although many authorities don't go that far.

You are also absolutely right to not let your 18-month old go away from you for a week. You just can't do that to a toddler.

Stand your ground. He us being selfish and unreasonable.

MintyChops · 31/12/2017 06:59

Your ex is being totally unreasonable here. Stand your ground, it does sound like something else is going on that week for him to be to stubborn and intractable. The idea of an 18 mo on a plane without a parent is really alien to me.

SnowFairyDust · 31/12/2017 07:10

I just came on here do also say do you think he is planning something, a wedding or similar?

It seems like everything has been fairly reasonable up until this point. I'd also refuse to let them go on these dates, your reasons are completely valid unless he gives you a very good reason why they really must be there. Obviously an adult needs to travel with your DS and it's too long for him to be without you, I'd not compromise on that at all.

AstridWhite · 31/12/2017 07:10

I would not be allowing the older two to miss a week of term time so soon after the Christmas break. In my opinion, once you are at high school, the only time it's not a big deal to take time off is the very end of the summer term when no proper lessons happen in the last week to ten days anyway.

Your youngest is too young to spend a whole week away from you.

You just need to say no. He doesn't need to be in Poland. If he wants to spend a whole week with his children he should come to the UK to do it.

By Easter it would be much more appropriate and the little one might cope better then.

Jerseysilkvelour · 31/12/2017 08:14

I agree you just say no. It was very manipulative of him to tell the kids before discussing it with you.

And you'll be the one stuck with the fines anyway won't you, as he doesn't actually live here so how are they going to enforce him.

No. No. No. No. you've offered a perfectly reasonable alternative of them going in school hols.

I wouldn't be comfortable or happy with an 18 mo old going abroad without me, but if it came to it I think the baby would be fine and would have their siblings with them for familiarity anyway.

I'd imagine the unaccompanied minor service costs more than a ticket for you to go over by the way...

CauliflowerSqueeze · 31/12/2017 11:16

He knew damn well you would refuse which is why he announced it at the birthday dinner to the kids directly. He’s being a total wanker over this he really is.

Idontdowindows · 31/12/2017 15:01

In addition to all the confirmation that you are definitely not being unreasonable to say no, I'd say you need to get legal advice asap as well.

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