Another great for society EU scheme that won't exist in the future

[Idreamofalandrover]

www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/swap-your-old-bike-lock-982364.amp stuff like this where people can get a massively subsidised bike lock to encourage cycling will no longer exist after brexit. Aibu to think most brexiters didn't know all the good work the EU does?

Nothing to stop the uk govt offering a similar scheme in future, minus the EU beaurocracy which deals with it

They aren't going to though. There are thousands of the things you get from the EU that the UK gov have no intention of replacing for you. Sad times.

You can buy many bike locks for £350m

This would look good on the side of a bus.

You could also buy a lot of buses for £350m

With all the money they save in road tax, I'm pretty sure they can afford their own bike lock.

There are things we should be concerned about losing when we leave the EU however this seems to me anyway pretty far down the list.
There's nothing to stop Government offering a similar scheme in the future. People seem to assume that we'll have a permanent Conservative government. After the next election we could have a Labour, Lib Dem, Green coalition that offers free bikes and locks to everyone that signs up to a car scrappage scheme.
IMO if you can afford a bike you can afford a lock for it and this money that would be better spent elsewhere.

You could also afford a fair few policemen on the beat for £350m. Perhaps that would make the locks less necessary.

If someone spends £150 on a bike, how much of an incentive is a bike lock subsidy (eg a % of about £15)?

I believe 50% of the traffic (ie bikes) take up 30% of the space. Sounds like a win to me.

At the end of the day, an integrated transport policy that supports all modes of transport is going to be most beneficial to society as a whole.

Or are you really arguing that increasing the numbers of cars on the roads would be a better way forward?

At the end of the day, an integrated transport policy that supports all modes of transport is going to be most beneficial to society as a whole.

No argument here. But that's not the transport policy we have, or are getting, like the housing policy we have, and are carrying on with.

Where did I say anything about increasing the number of cars on the road? 🤦‍♀️

I said that if you actually go to a real life busy road, esp one that has been reduced in capacity for a bike lane, you can see for yourself what the bikes do to the flow of traffic instead of citing generalised stats. See also the strand for a prime example of over aggressive Lycra clad idiots on 2 wheels making life miserable for everyone else trying to use the road.

I think (and fear) they will probably reduce statutory mat leave entitlements before they get rid of some uneeded bike locks.

You could also buy a lot of buses for £350m - Or just 35 fucking brilliant ones.

Saying Brexit is bad because of subsidising bike locks is as ridiculous as saying Brexit is good because of new colour passports. Very very minor stuff.

I believe 50% of the traffic (ie bikes) take up 30% of the space. Sounds like a win to me.

At the end of the day, an integrated transport policy that supports all modes of transport is going to be most beneficial to society as a whole.

Yes. It seems sort of counter intuitive, but does increase flow once you think about it.

It is sort of like mistaken escalator etiquette, if people stand on both right and left, instead of having a "passing lane", capacity is increased by 30%.

You seem so hell bent on deterring cycling that you must want more cars. Perhaps the extra 5,000 per morning commute that you'd get crossing at Blackfriars if the cycle route wasn't there? Love to see how that would speed the traffic up.

But at least you wouldn't see any lycra. You'd be coughing too much from the pollution to see anything.

Anyway, much though I've enjoyed your edifying discourse, I'm off to eat cake with the MIL.

Only someone who has never been there would think that more people would be encouraged to drive to Blackfriars. Where would they park?

Whatever do you think people did before they cocked up the embankment and the crossing at Blackfriars with the cycle lane?! Have you ever seen the unbelievable number of cyclists who refuse to use the cycle lane because "it's not quick enough" or as one I witnessed shouting at a taxi driver after knocking off his wing mirror said, "its fucking optional, you fucking spanner"?

How do you think people who live further out are going to get their bikes into town to cycle across it? maybe we could have fewer seats on the trains so that more people could bring their bikes in from the regions?!

Encourage lovely country cycling by all means, but cities are another ballgame entirely. Walking is the best way there, wherever possible.

Definitely the best Brexit thread I've read so far.

It's ridiculous shit like this that made me vote leave.

The benevolent overlords in the EU use our contributions to pay for this scheme (and because we are net contributors we are subsidising bike locks across Europe if this is an eu wide scheme). It's not free.

I'd be interested to see the evidence that shows the reason why people don't cycle is because of the prohibitive cost of bike locks

Personally I'd rather our taxes were deployed on slightly more essential things,but each to their own.

Personally the reasons I don't cycle to work are nothing to do with the cost of bike locks. Its more to do with A) laziness and B) I'd have to go down some really bloody dangerous roads most of which don't have cycle lanes.

I think the point is its not even an eu subsidised scheme and wont be affected