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AIBU to be totally sick of immature, selfish, aggressive brother?

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MinesaBottle · 27/12/2017 17:47

I'm at the end of my tether with my brother and would appreciate some advice or at least being told I'm not totally unreasonable!

A bit of background - he's 40 (3 years younger than me). He hasn't worked for 20 years except the very occasional short stint which always ends with him packing it in because someone looked at him funny or some other trivial thing. He lives in a house owned by our mum that was our late gran's. He lived with her for a few years and although he wasn't a carer exactly he kept an eye on things and it was a comfort to her. He's never paid any rent and doesn't pay insurance - my mum does. He's had to go on gas and electricity meters because he ran up big arrears and he doesn't look after the place at all.

He has 2 children, a ds(13) and dd (4) by different mothers both of whom left him because they got sick of his shit. To be fair he's a good dad and great with them but he does slag their mums off in front of them sometimes which makes me uncomfortable.

He relies on my mum - a pensioner - for 'help' i.e. money and uses the children as leverage. He's on benefits including ESA for a mental health condition he's never actually clarified. He comes round to mum's and sits there on his phone while our 75 yo mother entertains the kids, he eats her food, uses her shower etc and never a word of thanks. He's always been very self centred, ungrateful and lacking in any kind of personal responsibility.

So to Christmas...I live 300 miles away and I do come to visit when I can but obviously I do have work etc. he resents this as he thinks I should never have left our tiny town and that he looks after mum all the time while I occasionally swoop in to get the glory. He doesn't actually do a lot for mum and what he does do he does grudgingly. This year he's been on edge the whole time, and yesterday I came into the room when his little dd was just behind the closed door. I opened it suddenly, it didn't hit her but gave her a fright and she ran to dad who lost it with me and yelled about how I should be more careful etc. fair enough, I apologized but he would leave it. DH told him there was no harm done and he started on DH then telling him he had no idea what it's like having kids - DH has two from his first marriage, brought them up till eldest was 10 and is still close with them! DH told brother not to patronize him which really upset brother as he's not used to being spoken to like that. Mum then told DB he should've been keeping an eye on his dd instead of being glued to his phone at which we got a massive rant and he then stormed out taking two very bemused dcs with him.

He later texted me basically to tell me how awful we all are. I replied that we do love him to which I got the following:
Between the three of you, with your selfish attitude, DH's opinionated offensive rant and mothers biased bullshit picking, you well and truly ruined Christmas for me. So y'know, get to fuck.

So. I'm sick of walking on eggshells around him, as are we all. I really think he needs help. At this point I'd happily go nc but I want a relationship with niece and nephew and more importantly, don't want my mum to have to cope with him alone. We both had a normal upbringing, no dysfunctional in the family but he's always been like this and we don't know why. Everything is someone else's fault, he's a fucking parasite and I'm sick of it.

Aaagh - that was incredibly long. Sorry.

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MinesaBottle · 27/12/2017 18:55

It's easier for me - I need to have a serious talk with my mum. Nephew is old enough to have an independent relationship with at least.

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Personwithhorse · 27/12/2017 18:59

Sounds a bit l like mine - is he smoking weed or using other drugs? Best avoided.

MinesaBottle · 27/12/2017 19:03

He used to smoke weed but hasn't for a few years now, not since his daughter was born. Doesn't even drink or smoke. He's basically just naturally an arse!

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MinesaBottle · 29/12/2017 13:00

Resurrecting this because he's now saying he wants nothing to do with us. Mum is due to have a heart op in a couple of months and he now expects me to fully support her which I can't do for long as I work and live far away. He really needs help and I have no fucking idea what to suggest any more.

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liminality · 29/12/2017 13:21

Can you help by hiring a cleaner, organising meals to be delivered, booking a carer or taking a few days of leave immediately after the op?

MinesaBottle · 29/12/2017 13:26

I intend to take some leave - otherwise I guess I'll need to look into a cleaner etc. I know he isn't very well at the moment and saying things he'll probably regret, but mum doesn't need this and I'm livid that once again he's thinking only of himself when she needs us both.

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Candlelight234 · 29/12/2017 13:38

He's playing his one & only trump card. If he relies on your mum for money this might be short lived.
I would only respond with non commital phrases such as 'thats a shame' it's 'going to be tough on mum', basically don't rise to his bait.
Make sure you have cleaners & carers lined up for if he does go through with it.

maggiecate · 29/12/2017 13:56

Contact you mum's doctor now and explain the situation, and Ask them to flag up to social services to ensure that there's an appropriate care package in place for when she's discharged. That should help with her dressing, washing, meals etc etc. contact AgeUk for advice on what grants are available and to ensure all the equipment she might need is in place. Emphasise that your brother is unreliable and that you are a long way away. Don't let them discharge her without being happy there's a plan in place that would work if you aren't there for some reason - and say yes to everything they offer. It's a lot easier to get stuff taken away if it's not needed than to get it added later!! Basically take your brother out of the equation and assume you won't be getting any help. It sounds as if getting some support from social services would benefit you both.

MinesaBottle · 29/12/2017 14:16

Thanks - I will do that. I don't know if he'll go through with it but I don't want to take the chance!

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maggiecate · 29/12/2017 17:36

It no doubt will vary from place to place but I was amazed at how much help was available - my mum fractured her hip whilst in hospital (long story!) and they sent an occupational therapist who arranged for extra handrails, grab rails in the bathroom, a bath seat that raises and lowers etc etc. It's not all pretty but it does the job and the chaps who installed it were lovely. The OT was the one who advised assume you'll need everything - don't think "oh well we can probably manage" because that ends up with them back in hospital when they fall because they don't have the right kit.

Mum and dad also have personal alarms and the smoke and carbon monoxide detectors are connected up to the same system so if anything trips it goes through to the alarm team. The had a CO leak last year and the alarm team got the gas board, fire and ambulance out and were utterly amazing. Mum knew something was beeping but not what and dad was asleep and oblivious to the whole thing so it could have been fatal. Something like that is so reassuring if you're far away, and very adaptable for what the person needs. They got it through the council and they pay a fee every six months, worth every penny.

Our biggest problem at the moment is getting them to take the help that's there, as dad is 90+ going on 15 and still thinks he can do it all despite the dodgy eyes, ears and hip!

Your mum sounds pretty suss so she might have it sorted already but you should think about getting power of attorney arranged so that there's no question about the control of her affairs should the need arise.

MinesaBottle · 29/12/2017 19:19

That's really reassuring. Mum is v independent and apart from needing a new valve she's otherwise fit - she was still running upstairs till a year or so ago! I just want to make sure she has all the support possible so I'll look into all of these.

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