Child maintenance calculator help

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Sorry, I wasn't sure where to post this.

I am very confused by the Gov child maintenance calculator.

My partner has a child whom lives with us full time. His mother is dead, so he doesn't pay maintenance for this child. Before she died, he did not pay maintenance as she wasn't entitled to it as he had his son 365 nights a year.

He has another child, whom he doesn't see. This is due to the mother's wishes and he doesn't wish to start court proceedings. He pays child maintenance.

We are currently pregnant with a child and we are wondering if his second child's mother's maintenance will decrease due to this. And whether she is entitled to the money that the first child's mother could have been entitled to (but never was).

Sorry if this is confusing. Thanks in advance.

Hi, once you have the baby his child maintenance to the child’s mother can be lowered, this can be done through CSA if you’re unsure, they will advise how much the new cost will be. The other money can not be claimed by the other mother as it wasn’t her child in the first place.

So say he had 3 children, 3 mother's. And was entitled to pay £800 per month, would this be split between the 3 mother's? And would he forgo a 3rd of that as one mother is deceased? And what about the mother he is living with? Very confused. Thanks.

The mother of the child who lived with you was never entitled to maintenance because the child lived with him.

You need to calculate the amount as paying toward one child (the one who doesn't live with him) whilst having two children living in the home with him (their mothers are irrelevant because the children live with him).

Yes, as he isn't interested in raising the child it's ok to do the absolute legal minimum financially too. As the mum is providing 100% of the care then only right he should pay less.

Seriously, you're having a baby with a man who isn't interested in a relationship with one of his dc and your concern is whether he can lower the legal pittance further? Will the resident child become cheaper to keep once 'we' have given birth?

The maintenance toward the child who doesn't live with him will likely go down due to him having a second child in his home.

Thehog there is much more to it than that so please don't assume

No, there's never an excuse. If the mother is the devil personified then even more reason to pursue a relationship. Even if it's unsuccessful, when that kid is an adult and starts asking questions, honestly saying you tried every route possible for a relationship and always paid as much as you could is going to be very different to saying 'yeah, I paid the legal minimum but it was complicated'

The only time it's morally ok to contribute just legal maintanence is if you're so loaded it makes no odds, or if you're below the breadline. In which case he should have thought before fathering a third. Just be aware op that if he can fuck off one kid he can fuck off another, i.e yours

Yes the legal minimum required will be reduced once he has an additional child of his own living at the same address as him.

I’d also (more kindly than previous poster) suggest you look at finances and see if he can keep the current maintenance payments to his child who does not live with him if at all possible. After all, the costs to raise this child will not reduce when your own child is born.

Also - if he does decide to reduce maintenance, I’d suggest it kinder to give as much notice as possible that this will be happening so that the child’s mother can put into place plans to make up for the shortfall.

Just tried the calculator,
26k a year..3 children the most he would pay is £80 a week.

hope that helps

Is that £80 per week per child? Thanks

No it's not £80 per week per child. Maintenance is only calculated for the children who are not living with him. It is assumed that your DP would contribute to the financial welfare of the children who live with him. CSA is therefore calculated only for children not living with him. The children in your household are not 'entitled' to any level of maintenance because he provides the household for them. If you were to leave with your DC then he would pay maintenance to you and the other mother but this would depend on circumstances at the time. Bit of an odd qs?? What are you hoping to discover??

Morally it shouldn't be reduced . The DC already is the only one who doesn't see her dad and now the money she receives is going to be reduced because he wants a baby.

You sound so cold and detached.His Mother is Dead just sounds cold.

Do you want him to give you money? Your questions are unusual. There is no doubt a huge back story here.

If he can manage to give the mum of the kid he does not see the same money, then he should.

Tick paying
How many children are you paying for? = one
Do you get any benefits? tick as appropriate, what do you and him get?
Enter income
How many children live with you? = two
How often does child stay with you? = less than 52
It will then give you the MINIMUM amount to be paid

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Tick paying
How many children are you paying for? = one
Do you get any benefits? tick as appropriate, what do you and him get?
Enter income
How many children live with you? = two
How often does child stay with you? = less than 52
It will then give you the MINIMUM amount to be paid

Is that £80 per week per child? Thanks

There is only one child who is calculated.

You need to get the idea of him paying maintenance toward the two children who live with him out of your head. He doesn't pay maintenance for children who live with him, he's only responsible for maintenance toward 1 child. The other children are funded from his general income.