To think that neighbours shouldn't be so loud at 5.15 am

[funkyzebra]

We live in a semi-detached house.
Every week day between about 5.15 and 5.30 am the neighbours get up and are really loud in the bedroom next to us. I'm not talking about normal levels of conversation here. More like her 8 year old boy shouting at the top of his lungs and his mum shouting back at him. Then her 10 and 8 year old shouting and arguing with each other.
Is it normal to get kids up at this time during the week? Is is normal to be so loud and disrespectful of your neighbours?
I get up at 6.15/6.30 for work and could really do with the extra sleep.
Otherwise they are nice neighbours. It is just this one issue!

1. Have a word with them. They may not be aware of how the noise carries.

1. If no improvement, try doing it back one day at 4.30am, not with the intention of starting a noise war, but just to see them actually experience how much the noise carries.

1. Earplugs or insulate the party wall.

Is is normal to be so loud and disrespectful of your neighbours?

Some people have very little awareness of how much sound carries, especially at night when there's no background noise. They aren't necessarily being disrespectful, they probably just aren't aware.

Have a word with them.

My neighbours do this. Not as early, granted, but their children are almost constantly shouting and screaming and squealing. They’re 10+ so old enough to know to keep it down. I don’t know how their mother doesn’t realise it just disturb us, because on the rare occasion a voice is raised here then they must here it. There’s no way I would have been allowed to rampage like that in a terrace when I was a child!

Anyway, rant over. Like you, they’re lovely in other ways so I don’t raise it. But if it was waking me at 5am then I’d have a polite word tbh.

*hear

Speak to them, they may not be aware how much you can hear. On the other hand they may just be ignorant.

Our neighbours were told repeatedly to stop the noise late at night/early hours of the morning and in the end we had to report them because they didn't give a shit.

I know, we probably should talk to them. I'm worried about making things awkward between us and seeming like the horrible neighbours!
They go to bed very early (8pm) and we always try to be really quiet in the evenings. I even dry my hair downstairs because I am conscious of waking them up! Just wish they would do the same!

My toddler often gets up at 5am and can be loud and screechy. I don't think of 5am as particularly early as I used to get up at that time for work so would use shower, hairdryer, put the washing machine and dishwasher on. I think some families just keep different time schedules or speak with a louder volume. But always worth having a polite word.

I'm a bit paranoid now that you're our neighbours.....

DS gets up very early and is very screechy and shouty, he has ASD so barely needs any sleep and has no concept of how much noise he's making or what time it is. Best I can do is try keep him on the other side of the house, away from the adjoining walls, but I'm sure he does disturb the neighbours sometimes especially when the other DC start to copy him (which is usually when I lose my shit and end up having to raise my voice so that they can hear me telling them to quiet down).

Don't get into a noise war or pettiness, that only leads to a shitty relationship and potentially a game of one upmanship that everyone will end up losing.

Knock on their door, ask if it's a good time for a quick chat and gently explain that you know the DC are young/kids can be loud, you think they're lovely neighbours and you have absolutely no other issues with them, but could the DC possibly try to keep the noise down at 5am.

5am is early though, noise guidelines state that you noise shouldn't go above permitted levels between 11pm and 7am.

5am is definitely early!! I live in a Victorian terrace and you can basically hear a pin drop at that time. I don’t think my neighbour realised this when he first moved in, but I had a polite word and he’s been much better. You do need a bit of give and take, but every day at 5am is not acceptable imo. If you don’t make any noise though, they probably don’t realise how much sounds carry.

I think you're being too nice, if they're going to bed at 8pm then I'd make noise til I go to bed (normal noise not intentional noise) then they might approach you and say Hi we go to bed at 8pm can you be quieter then you can say no problem but could you also be silent before 7am thanks

Lifestyle noises, such as children playing, generally isn't classified as a noise nuisance that enforcement officers would deal with.

Of course 5am is early! yanbu.

5am isn't early to me, as thats when I get up but I know it's still early for others! I try to be as quiet as possible getting ready for work (I live in a flat).

No need for older children/parents to be shouting!

I would definately have a word with the neighbours, maybe they don't realise how loud they are?

This would drive me bonkers

Ds is awake and I am up at 5am and often earlier. We are in an end terrace so keep him away from our neighbours side of the house so hopefully any shrieking isn't that loud to them.

I don't mind normal energetic kid noises at all (in the day or evening). When I'm home I tend to just zone it out as with all other noises like the dog barking from one of the other neighbours. People have to live their lives, kids make noise and I don't mind this at all at normal times. But when it's waking me up at 5.15/5.30 when I'm not due to get up for another hour it annoys me a lot!
I spoke to her and it was pretty awkward to be honest. She just said that kids make noise and you can't always keep them quiet (but shouting at 5.15? ). Anyway she said she will try her best to limit the noise in the mornings. So will see how things go!!