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To expect people without kids to not park in the M&B spaces at Tesco?

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Emprexia · 22/04/2007 15:42

What is wrong with people?

There is a HUGE carpark at my Tesco, but only 20 Parent & Child parking spaces.

The amount of people who don't have kids that use them at the busiest times just so they dont have to walk across the carpark gobsmacks me.

i dont mind if they have disabled badges, if there are no spare disabled spaces, then go for it. But just because you're driving a 4x4 that you can't park is no excuse to park in the Parent/Child spaces!!!

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emankcin · 22/04/2007 23:24

Again with the disabled people comments on the M&B threads.

rather annoying it decends into this every time.

the answer is clearly to provide M&B spaces - or spaces which are defined by a larger area to allow opening of car doors to get out child - at the back of the car park under shelter to allow parents to properly waterproof their children.

after all those with a disability have a badge which they can show for the disabled spaces. in lieu of the supermarkets actually policing M&B spaces there is no solution to this problem.

whomovedmychocolate · 23/04/2007 08:43

2shoes - and the said old biddies always seem fairly sprightly yes, it's not the end of the world but it's not like there is a shortage of disabled spaces and they are NEARER the store. It just makes no sense.

whomovedmychocolate · 23/04/2007 08:45

There are ALWAYS tons of disabled spaces at my local supermarket - mainly because the M&B spaces are taken up by people who don't have a disabled badge parking in them - and yes they are mainly old people - and mainly they park in them and leave their spouses in the car and go shopping.

Not budging on this one, it's wrong. Not just for mums and babies but for the legitimately disabled, who get (a) a bad press and (b) sometimes can't park in the disabled zones because some old people think old inevitably means 'disabled'.

zippitippitoes · 23/04/2007 08:51

oopsy daisy was it worth it?

presumably you had yo take the children in and out of the car twice in order to get your space once you had the other woman removed from it?

on the scale of daily worry surely not getting a P&T space must rank around 0

chocolattegirl · 23/04/2007 09:09

I think that it's worth remembering that disabled badge holders are allowed to park on double-yellow lines where it is 'safe' to do so. Presumably they could exert this privilege at the supermarket if all their spaces are full?

P & T spaces being abused does annoy me but not as much as disabled spaces being abused or appearing to be abused, by able-bodied people. My father has got a blue badge and a genuine limited mobility range so it is frustrating when spaces appear to be occupied by Colin Jackson imitators who get out of their cars and race off .

Rachmumoftwo · 23/04/2007 09:22

In Ireland, some stores have spaces reserved for pregnant women, which I think is fab.
My husband has a moan about calling the spaces mother & baby spaces, rather than parent & child parking, which I agree is a fair point. He also moans about mother and baby changing rooms, and the fact that changing units are often in the ladies.

NadineBaggott · 23/04/2007 09:26

By zippitippitoes on Mon 23-Apr-07 08:51:20
oopsy daisy was it worth it?

presumably you had yo take the children in and out of the car twice in order to get your space once you had the other woman removed from it?

on the scale of daily worry surely not getting a P&T space must rank around 0

AMEN

kslatts · 23/04/2007 09:33

I only use the M&B spaces when the store is not busy, when it is busy I don't even bother trying to get a M&B space I drive straight to the far end of the car park where there is usually lots of empty spaces and I can easily get my dc's out.

I think there could be reasons for someone to use the M&B spaces if they didn't have children, for example an elderly person without a disabled badge may have a lot more difficulty walking from the far end of the car park than I do with 2 dc's. It doesn't really bother me, if someone feels they need a space right near the entrance then fine, I'm happy to walk across the car park.

kslatts · 23/04/2007 09:34

Rachmumoftwo - I agree with your dh about the baby changing being in the ladies.

getmeagin · 23/04/2007 10:12

started my own thread about this ages ago. haven't dared post since!
i know they're not a right, they're a priviledge etc etc but i just wish shoppers would respect the fact mums/parents/carers find those spaces really useful.
i'm not sure relocating them is the answer, one of the reasons they are so useful is that you don't have to carry large baby and various bags across a busy car park to the trolley stand.

LadyOfTheFlowers · 23/04/2007 10:13

cant believe you have dared start this!

LadyTophamHatt · 23/04/2007 10:19

Do you know??...

I think there must be something wrong with me...

#I have 4 kids, aged between 3months and 8 yrs but if i can't get a P&T space I just use anoher space.

Yes...you know all those other spaces that fill the carpark.

The ones without little pictures on the floor.

I use one of those.

Shocking really.

misdee · 23/04/2007 10:23

i went shopping on saturday, drove straight to the back of the car park and parked up, got a trolly, put dd3 in it, took my bag, locked the car and walked into the shop. oh it was so so so hard

BaronessLazyLine · 23/04/2007 10:32

LOL, LTH

Sheesh, these threads, they go on forever.

Can you find nothing else to moan about? Its a parking space! Get over yourselves, acting as if people are taking YOUR space to get at you personally. Maybe you should simply consider yourself lucky that you do not NEED a space like a disabled driver does. Why don't you just park further away where there are more empty spaces? You might have a child but you still have the use of your legs!

Lazycow · 23/04/2007 10:55

Oh yayy!!!

I was almost going to start one of these threads myself

Just a short story from my weekend

Dh and I got to Tesco shopping with ds (toddler) so park in the toddler and parent parking. There were quite a few spaces so despite there being two adults and one child in my car I used the space as dh was planning to do some other shopping and I was likey to be back at the car on my own with ds.

Fast forward to shopping (ds starting the beginning of a tantrum and dh saying -' I'll take him out for a walk, you pay and come and meet us at the bench in the park')

I merrily pay and go back to my car, then realised I have NO toddler - oh the shame of loading my car with shopping in the 'parent and toddler space with one woman unloading her toddler looking at me quite unhappily and another car waiting for me to leave as by this point the car park was really busy

I almost shouted out of the window ' I had one when I arrived' but instead just slinked off blushing and feeling bad - but honest I did have one when I arrived and planned to have him when I left.

hatrick · 23/04/2007 10:59

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Emprexia · 23/04/2007 12:25

LTH - I completely agree with you, and will use the normal spaces. As i've said, im not averse to walking across the carpark with 7mo DS to get to the store

However, being able to park in the normal spaces still doesn't offset my irritation at the people who take up the PT spaces when they don't have kids.

You wouldn't expect a car to park in a Lorry/Coach space at a service station, just as you don't expect other people to park in your driveway or block it off.

It isn't about PT spaces and normal spaces, its about having a little consideration for your fellow humans, and people that park in PT spaces just because they can't be bothered to walk an extra 20metres are being selfish, rude and inconsiderate by using a space that they dont need to.

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fryalot · 23/04/2007 12:28

oh, good, this is still going

JoanCrawford · 23/04/2007 12:31

I haven't read whole thread, for fear of combusting. (I came close to it after reading, "they don't park in the disabled bays, they steal ours instead")

I say, scrap the whole lot of m&b bays and make them all disabled.

margoandjerry · 23/04/2007 13:17

I never parked in a M&B bay before I had a baby and I never do now as they are always full. I kind of think they are annoying and unnecessary - see LadyTophamHatt for instructions on how to use a supermarket.

However, here is my idea for disabled parking bays. I think supermarkets are reluctant to enforce them as they would end up fining their own customers. So all the disability charities should get together to create a company whose job it is to enforce correct use of disability bays - the company would then be hired by Tesco and Sainsbury to patrol the supermarkets and fine anyone parked in a disabled bay without a badge. The fines would go directly to the disability charities. So Tesco and others would not look bad for fining their own customers as it would be a third party - but no one could complain about "stealth taxes" or whatever as the money would go directly to disability charities.

OrmIrian · 23/04/2007 13:18

Goodness..... I may be wrong but this looks familiar somehow......

littlelapin · 23/04/2007 13:19

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misdee · 23/04/2007 13:20

baywatch

SparklyGothKat · 23/04/2007 13:59

I believe that one shopping centre, once clamped everyone who was parked in BB spaces without a badge and fined them. The money then went to chartity

harman · 23/04/2007 14:01

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