Does suffering negate bad behaviour?

[Eltonjohnssyrup]

If you were a person who knew somebody like Harvey Weinstein and had harassed somebody in the same way and had absolute proof of that would your grass them up?

How about if you had proof of that but the other person had suffered in some way? Would you expose them or not? Does #metoo not work sometimes?

I think it would be for the victim of the harassment to report it - I would support them if that were their chosen course of action.

"Suffered in some way" - if the victim of harassment reported this, as they would be entitled to do, any 'mitigating' factors would ultimately be considered during the legal process, but wouldn't change the impact on the victim.

A bit too vague here.

I don't think it's entirely up to the victim in these cases, but often their word is what's going to start legal proceedings - so if this is about a friend of yours, a discussion with them would be the way to start, not just a report to the police. If the victim refuses to proceed, nothing can happen.

There are mitigating circumstances, such as mental illness, but the effect on the victim is still exactly the same and so some justice needs to be metered. A court will judge far better than the layperson.

The victims have already reported and been sidelined in just the way Weinsteins victims were.

No, no mental illness. Just powerful friends.

It is, like Weinstein, multiple women. And a man who has a lot of power.

Suffering doesn’t negate bad behaviour - if what you’re e plsininvbus a cycle than it should be broken. If victims have come forward I would definitely add my voice

Wow sorry! That’s suppose to say ‘if what you’re describing is a cycle’

It's up to the victim.

My OH has been the victim of a sexual crime by someone in a prominent position but I respect his decision to keep it private.

We've all suffered. It's still up to the individual to not abuse others. Sound like you have a duty to provide your evidence.

No suffering makes some behaviours understandable but it doesn’t excuse them. E.g. children who were abused often grow up to be abusers. You can understand how the suffering affected their behaviour but it doesn’t mitigate it or make it ok.

I would. Cycles of abuse need to be broken and whilst I have empathy for potential reasons behind abuse, it's never an excuse.

It's up to the victims/survivors to tell their story, but if victims of the abuse have come forward and been silenced and I could help I absolutely would.

I think you should given your evidence. It isnt your place to decide whether the powerful person should be allowed to sexually harrass others. (I may have misunderstood your post. Ive not got up yet).