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Parking Wars AIBU to expect school to help do something!

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Parkingwarsaga · 08/12/2017 18:10

OK have name changed as very outing.

We live a few doors down from a primary school. The school has a carpark at the church next door possibly 30 foot from school. We are in the other direction.

Our flats have a car park. It can not be closed off with bollards as the end property and a property across the back road are business and have spaces there.
Spaces are included in our rent.

We however have signs up informing people it is a private car park and each space is numbered to a flat. Some spaces are up to peoples front windows.

We have contacted the school endless times and they have asked parents not to park there and to park on the church but they continue to park there filling every space.

We had had residents with babies, small children and disabled residents who haven't been able to park in the spaces included in their rent, people coming home from work who can't park in their spaces. A registered disabled relative of a resident who can't walk far and had to park the other end of a long road.

We have faced abuse numerous times when politely informing people its a private space. Former residents in the past have been told they can park where they 'fucking well want'

One neighbour got annoyed and blocked someone in who was parked right up to his front window and was told he better move now or else cause the woman had a baby. The same women who had blocked another actual resident from coming home with her newborn previously.

Parents drive in to the car park at speed. I've been beeped at for not moving quick enough across the car park so parents who shouldn't be there can park. I've put my bins in my space so my disabled father can park when he comes that morning and they've been moved.

You might think it's only a few minutes but some people come half an hour early and wait or stay half an hour later and chat playing loud music or with their kids running screaming and shouting disturbing shift workers. It's every morning at breakfast club then school time, after school, after school clubs, every book club, every after school play or nativity or music lesson. it's infuriating and I'm sure half the people who do it would go bonkers if people parked up to their front window blasting music.

We have spoke endlessly to the landlord and the school. The landlord has told us that if we want it sorted we have to pay hundreds of pounds for an automated barrier with passes for all including the businesses one of which is currently empty and I currently don't have the money to do this.

School have basically said oh deary me we can send a letter home but nothing else we can do. (they have parked on peoples gardens and hedges before now!)

Surely rather than cause hassle with neighbours a couple of mornings of some member of staff walking the few feet to our carpark at the main time for ten minutes a couple of times would put a stop to it.

Their tag line is all about giving to, being part of and being an asset to the community which is a joke.

OP posts:
Yangtastic · 08/12/2017 18:51

Does the school have an active twitter account? Perhaps you could post some photos (with reg numbers crossed out) of the vehicles illegally parked with a hashtag being used by the school and tweeted to the school account - may make the school more motivated to send a more forceful letter if there’s negative coverage about them on social media.

Another option is to get a group of residents together and ask for a meeting with the Headteacher - if he / she is personally inconvenienced by the situation (having to have a meeting with rightly angry neighbours) she may be more inclined to tackle the situation.

Or check the legality of clamping and - if it’s legal - clamp and fine cars illegally parked in your car park then use the proceeds to pay for the automated barriers.

pallisers · 08/12/2017 18:52

It's not really the school's responsibility. How are they supposed to stop people?

Every school my children have attended have taken responsibility for being a good neighbour and have stopped people parking on other people's property. They make the parking/drop off/pick up rules clear to everyone, put up signs, the headmaster is out checking where people park, the lollipop lady/crossing guard will move people on. Teachers take on this duty too. Local police also stop by periodically to make sure the situation is safe.

Given that there seems to be absolutely no tradition of schools taking this on in the UK, I would take sprinkle's suggestion adn contact the local press or set up a twitter/facebook page, photograph licence plates and post every time

pallisers · 08/12/2017 18:53

perhaps you could post some photos (with reg numbers crossed out)

Can you not post the actual reg numbers?

DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 08/12/2017 18:53

with reg numbers crossed out
I wouldn’t bother crossing them out.

SomedayMyPrinceWillCome · 08/12/2017 18:53

There are private companies who will enforce private car parks like yours. Residents can be issued free permits. Anyone parking without a permit will be issued with a legally enforceable penalty charge notice. They make their money from the parking fines, the "customer" (you & your neighbours) receive a small percentage of the parking charge only. But if your wish is to deter people parking rather than making money, it could be an option

Parkingwarsaga · 08/12/2017 18:53

There's four nights of nativity plays next week. Aibu to turn up at the start of the nativity play with photos of the cars and delay the bloody play while asking for all the cars to move. Next week is going to be a nightmare.

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StripeyDeckchair · 08/12/2017 19:00

Buy a wheel clamp, put up a sign warning them then clamp them.
If it's private land you can.
Do it few times and word will get round the school.

How many flats are there? Buy several between you

Yangtastic · 08/12/2017 19:02

The nativity plays are a really good opportunity to make your point.

Get organised this weekend with residents to research clamping and decide what you want to do.

Get a group of residents together to form and guard a temporary barrier, and ask the head to either read out a notice from your residents group or let you speak yourself to the parents at the start of each performance.

At the start of the performance the parents can then be reminded not to park at the flats and warned that from January any vehicles parked there will be clamped.

rcit · 08/12/2017 19:03

Write a letter to the head asking for the school to pay the money for the bollards or send a member of staff to stand in your driveway.

No I don't think schools have endless money but they do have some responsibility in this situation.

Can the offending vehicles/drivers be photographed?

grannytomine · 08/12/2017 19:08

My kids went to a very over subscribed school, when they started you signed a home school agreement that included you couldn't park within a quarter of a mile of the school which meant the parking was all spread out. I don't know what the school did about it but the only people who parked closer were people dropping off/picking up 6th formers. I think people had lost "the fear" by then.

I live near a primary school which has trebled in size, parents are diabolical and have parked on a neighbours front garden, blocked access to our cul-de-sac and when told a lady in her 80s was waiting an ambulance as an emergency the driver just walked off and ignored us.

I have to confess I wasn't upset when one of the massive cars was hit by the refuse collectors lorry. Stopped them parking in our cul-de-sac for a few weeks anyway.

AntiHop · 08/12/2017 19:11

I agree with you op. I think the school should write to parents saying it's unacceptable.

chocolateorangeowls · 08/12/2017 19:12

Totally understand, I lived near a primary school and it was a nightmare for this. I also teach at a secondary school and unfortunately I really don't think having a member of staff there would make any difference - you should hear the way that some parents speak to us! They'd probably love the chance to run us over 😂

If I was you I'd look at getting an individual bollard for your space or block someone in. I've blocked someone in before who parked on my drive, it was very satisfying ha ha.

chocolateorangeowls · 08/12/2017 19:13

Also I complained to the local primary where I used to live and never got a response.

Hateloggingin · 08/12/2017 19:19

Our school constantly send texts/emails/letters re inconsiderate parking and will name the registration number. They also have a guy at the gate who watches people's driving and parking (the residential road leading to the school leads to this fate so he can see). It seems to work (to a certain extent)

Lweji · 08/12/2017 19:20

The ideal system would be spikes pointing towards the park, residents and business card holders would easily get out by lowering the spikes. Twats driving at speed getting out would get their tyres burst.

Buggeritimgettingup · 08/12/2017 19:20

dickmail.co.uk/stop-parking-like-a-cunt-stickers-12-pack/

limitedscreentime · 08/12/2017 19:20

Is there anyway you can attach a chain over the entrance? With a padlock that residents have access to (combo or key)? Might be less expensive than bollards. Would probably only need to be used at peak times.

cantkeepawayforever · 08/12/2017 19:22

I would suggest making a list of registration numbers as the parents arrive for the nativity play, then going to the school with 5 minutes to go before the performance and ask whether you could read out the registration numbers of cars parked illegally so that they can be moved.

In fact, I would send a polite letter / e-mail to school stating that you are intending to do this for every performance, and then turn up with a cheery 'You saw my letter about the car parking, I've just come with the list of registration numbers for tonight to make the announcement' on the first night.

A combination of embarrassment (for school and parents) and the relevant people missing the start of the show because they have had to move their cars should solve it quite quickly, I suspect.

Looneytune253 · 08/12/2017 19:23

I can’t imagine having the staff there once or twice will help. Or even traffic wardens or police tbh. There’s a street near our school which it horrendous at school time for parkers and dangerous drivers etc. Every so often there’s a parking warden comes and everyone’s on their best behaviour for that day then back to normal the next day. I would look into a bollard for your own allocated drive.

BlessYourCottonSocks · 08/12/2017 19:24

Stickers. As mentioned.

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Stuck on their window?

FrancisCrawford · 08/12/2017 19:27

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6catsandcounting · 08/12/2017 19:29

Put up signs about clamping then clamp enough so that the fines they pay to get released pay for the Barrier?

MiaowTheCat · 08/12/2017 19:30

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HolyShet · 08/12/2017 19:31

I think a hardcore coordinated campaign with fellow residents

  1. Block them in. Every day. Go out. Do not move the car.
  1. Document it and insist school publish reg numbers in newsletter.
  1. Tweet reg numbers/photos to schools twitter account
  1. Be a PAIN IN THE ARSE in terms of your insistence to the school that they deal with it.