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Money stolen from my credit card again

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YeahRightOk · 08/12/2017 15:57

£3000 was stolen from my credit card account in the summer. the bank reissued me with a new card quickly, and then eventually reimbursed me.

last week, two sums of money were taken from my credit card on the same day. the bank initially notified me by text to let me know about this issue. they said they are dealing with it.

i'm very careful with my credit card, how i use it, and have it with me now. no one could have used it except me, no-one.

so this is the second time in 6 months that money has been fraudulently taken from my CC account! is this common? i'm worried sick again for second time in 2017. Sad

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Blackteadrinker77 · 08/12/2017 16:58

Do the payments have separate merchant authorisation codes? IE Does the £100 have 4 x £25 auth codes or just one auth code of £100?

perfectstorm · 08/12/2017 17:13

I went to the Mumsnet Take Five event and it was quite humbling, tbh. I've never had a fraud against me so I was quite smug. They went through all these examples of what can happen and by the end, I was feeling really stupid for thinking I could avoid it.

You can get a text message that arrives inside an existing thread which are legitimately from your bank, or internet provider, etc etc, and which gives a number or link that looks equally correct, and yet it's a fraudster sending you to hand over your data in good faith. If they have your phone number, then they can do this. That's all they need - bonus points if they have your name, too. A guy at the event sent a text to a Mumsnetter, and it looked legit and did indeed concertina in an existing bank message thread. That's one way. There are loads more. He said 95% of us, if called by someone claiming to be from our bank, answer the security questions. We don't hang up, wait a while, then call back on a number from the back of the card. Yet we have no way of knowing that person is legit. An especially grim fraud: someone called and started asking security questions, and the person wasn't comfortable, refused to answer, and called their bank. They were right and it was a fraud attempt. A few hours later the bank called back and said they'd identified a pattern of fraudulent spending and needed to go through it, so the person went through all these bonkers transactions they hadn't made.

Only the last call was not from the bank. It was by someone associated with the first fraudster, knowing that the target had sussed them and would have called the bank, and would now be very receptive to an approach claiming to be the fraud department. So they'd handed over a ton of data on that last approach.

I had a text from someone who knew my name and had my phone number, saying they were Netflix and the account was suspended if I didn't check my details and make a payment, as this month's had failed. I almost fell for it, but the Netflix account is not in my name, but my husband's... I was literally digging around in my bag to find my purse, to go and pay when I realised that. I have no idea where they got the number from, coupled with my name. I don't hand it out that much.

They also said that fraud is really commonly from cloned cards, from fake websites, and from cashpoints that have been doctored to obtain your PIN and card details. It might not be your bank at all. They said the best protection against that is always to use cashpoints physically inside banks, because they are a lot harder for fraudsters to access, and a lot riskier for them to mess with.

It can happen to anyone. It probably will do, at some point. It's a question of risk mitigation, rather than avoidance, I think.

perfectstorm · 08/12/2017 17:17

i spend £25 at duty free on arrival home last week. duty free says i spend £100. i have receipt for the £25. i was only a small gift.
then i paid my internet when i got in home, which was £50. instead the internet provider took £250.
this is so strange. how can two different companies on the same day both take extra?

This is really horrible, and stressful, and a PITA too, but at least you 1) kept the receipt, so can prove it's BS, and 2) the provider is also provably mass overcharging... unless it does originate from the bank.

Either way I hope you are compensated for your time and hassle, by whichever end the cockup has originated.

LightastheBreeze · 08/12/2017 17:20

If I need cash and it’s under £50, I always get cashback from a shop, loads do it nowadays, I don’t like using cash points at all

CandleLit · 08/12/2017 17:22

Do you have anti virus on your devices? It is as essential as locking your front door in terms of home security.

LightastheBreeze · 08/12/2017 17:23

OP did you ask the internet provider how much they took. Once Netflix took my payment twice, they couldn’t see it but the bank could so the bank claimed one of the payments back

LakieLady · 08/12/2017 17:43

I also know a case of several loans taken out under someone's name, and they couldn't prove they hadn't taken them out, and received all the money, and so they literally had to pay the £7,000 of debt.

They didn't have to pay it. When someone chases you for a debt, you are entitled to a copy of the original signed paperwork, loan agreement, contract, whatever. If the signature is nothing like yours, then it's clear that the application has been fraudulently made.

The husband of someone I know got no end of loans in his wife's name. They then split up and within a few weeks of him moving out, she started getting letters from all sorts of loan and finance companies she'd never heard of.

She had support from a local advice agency who got copies of all the original applications and the signatures were nothing like this woman's. After providing no end of evidence, they eventually agreed that they had been the victim of fraud and the debts weren't enforceable. The lady reported it to the police, but they said they could do nothing as she wasn't the victim, the banks etc were.

The husband never got taken to court for it afaik.

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