Comimg out of School late

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That's it really, DS whole class being let out of school 10+ minutes late every single day.
Not usually that much of a problem BUT due to building work in the school DD class is let out at 3pm leaving me and 4yr old waiting in on the FREEZING cold playground for nearly half an hour because said DS teacher can't handle the class.
apparently if one child is naughty he keeps the whole class in late after school. This is primary school ffs, since when was it ok to hold a whole class after school to punish one child?
Its literally every single day and today is especially cold and snowy and I'm especially peed off.
Fully intend to approach school on Monday to complain about this. WIBU?
I'm not joking its literally every day and I've had enough. we've missed appointments and all sorts because they're never out on time.
They'd be the first to complain if I brought DC to school late every day.
Sorry I just really needed a rant

I would definitely complain about this. Both issues - all the class being punished and the lateness factor.

You would think the teacher would want to be shot of them - not keep them longer!

Fine to rant here but just ask explain to the teacher and it'll be sorted, no need to get arsey. They will not be "keeping the class in late", they just need to get ready a bit sooner!

Go in calmly and check the facts first. You say "apparently" he keeps them in as a punishment, so presumably you're hearing this from your primary-aged child.

Ask why the class is let out late every day, and go from there. If your theory is correct then no, it's not okay - both punishing the whole class for one child's behaviour, and keeping them in late as a punishment.

My son's teacher was a shouter! She regularly kept them back 10 minutes and it drove me mad. I explained to her that I needed to collect him on time as I had to be at work, she did make sure he was out for a while but it slipped back so I had to have a word with the head.

I knew it was because of someone else misbehaving because you could hear her shouting this.

DontFundHate My son's teacher did. Most teachers are fabulous but some are total cocks - more to do with their personality than their profession.

apparently if one child is naughty he keeps the whole class in late after school. This is primary school ffs, since when was it ok to hold a whole class after school to punish one child?

It's quite common in a few primary schools I'm afraid. Used to piss me off when DCs were in separate schools and they used to faff about letting DD out. I often had to hot foot it over to DSs school (30minutes walk away!) in twenty minutes (I dont drive).

DDs secondary school also does this. I don't agree with it. The argument is the peer pressure side of it, that the whole class being pissed off at the culprits responsible for making them stay behind will suddenly make them behave. DD has two children in most of her classes who always misbehave and have caused the whole class to stay behind. These children validate my point that the method doesn't work, if it did, the same two children would have stopped misbehaving in week 2.

Definitely have a word though. It's bloody freezing and what if you had another child to pick up from another school like I did?

BackBoiler Yep. I had many brilliant teachers but one who would've probably been banned from teaching if I'd reported his behaviour, and one who clearly had favourites - which, according to most MNers, never happens.

I would complain about this. She should be able to discipline a bunch of primary aged children without inconveniencing parents.

My DS (Year 6), now tells his teacher that under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime.

My DS (Year 6), now tells his teacher that under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime.

I wouldn't be able to resist a smile if I was your DS's teacher!

Speak to the teacher and if that doesn't work speak to the head.

Years ago I was bad for getting my class out on time (not as a punishment just badly organised). Parents complained to the Head who spoke to me about it and how to give the children time to be sorted. We were nearly always the first out after that!

It's rare for my class now to be late. We're normally ready to leave as soon as the bell goes. It is frustrating when we're late because someone has forgotten to do something (today we were about to go when I noticed someone wearing their indoor shoes and carrying their boots -it was snowing!!).

When I was in primary school this was a common punishment and as I was well behaved I hated it. Teachers seemed to think that peer pressure would work on badly behaved children, but what happened was that some of them liked the power it gave them over their classmates and would threaten to be bad just before home time so everyone had to stay late.

Peer pressure like that works and I think is fine for minor offences like a number of children in a class talking too loudly, or messi g around when they are supposed to be doing something, it shouldn't be used when it's one or two children doing something they shouldn't. Either way, if a class has to be kept in then it should be at lunchtime during school hours, not after home time unless they give notice of a detention.

Not generally a fan of collective punishment. However, ds1 was 20 min late getting out of school yesterday and told me that at the end of their last class (art) 15 palettes had been dumped in the sink and left dirty. Their art teacher made them all wait whilst she cleaned and dried each one and put it away. I thought she was brilliant and wonder how often she's had to clean up after them in the past and what will happen next week. Even ds1 could see her point, though he maintains that he did clean his palette and it ended up with him missing his bus.

If you have an appointment that relies on leaving School bang on time tell School joh will be picking him up from the office that day 10 minutes early.

I think it's pretty standard that no one leaves until the classroom is tidy and everyone is quiet.

The collective punishment thing doesn't work because it happens at the end of the day. If the whole class is kept in for an extra 10 minutes because of little Matilda's behaviour, the teacher expects the whole class to get mad at Matilda so she will be pressurised not to misbehave next time. But you see, little kids have short memory and by the time they get out and see their parents/nannies they will forget about the whole thing. The next day it will be completely erased from their memories and either Matilda or someone else will misbehave again. It doesn't work.
Hold only the kid back who misbehaves.

Talk to the school. I wish I had known the Geneva Convention line when I was in what is now called year 4, even if it not true.

They should miss a break rather than stay late -

Speak to them about waiting in the hall in bad weather

If you have an appointment that relies on leaving School bang on time tell School joh will be picking him up from the office that day 10 minutes early

Rubbish. I make the effort to get my dc to school on time every morning and I expect the teacher to do the same with letting them out on time every afternoon.

I pick my dc up at 3.20 and have 30 minutes to drop them to the cm and be back in work every day. I need them let out promptly and would definitely raise it with the teacher and then head (if necessary) in the ops position.