Is the new defense secretary BU : '''a dead terrorist can’t cause any harm to Britain''

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*Not a single British citizen who has fought for Islamic State should be allowed back into the UK, the Defence Secretary declared last night.

Gavin Williamson signalled he was prepared to hunt down and use air strikes against the remaining 270 UK passport holders who have travelled to Syria and Iraq.

In an interview with the Daily Mail, he said: ‘Quite simply, my view is a dead terrorist can’t cause any harm to Britain.’

He added: ‘I do not believe that any terrorist, whether they come from this country or any other, should ever be allowed back into this country.

‘We should do everything we can do to destroy and eliminate that threat.’*

I guess his stance is : ''nuke them from orbit...it's the only way to be sure''

Urgh it's difficult. I can't lose any sleep over an inhuman wanker like Mohamed emwazi. And some of them will be a massive security risk - all that hatred enhanced with trauma and knowledge and experience of killing people. A drone strike seems pretty merciful compared to the sort of deaths they have meted out and planned for westerners.

But targeted strikes feels like the death penalty and I'm not comfortable with that either!

• the deaths they have meted out in the Middle East, I mean

Why should we be civilised when they most certainly aren't?!

Isn't that the entire point?

You can't expect other countries to keep your citizens when you don't want them back. Unless you want to lose the right to deport anyone from your own country?

As theymademejoin says!

No better recruiting tool than a martyr to the cause. We learned nothing from history it seems

He is BU.

Some of you scare me at least as much as terrorists do, tbh.

I can't find anything he said that was wrong.

I do also wonder about the prison sentences for people committing terror offences here. If you've clearly planned to kill innocent strangers, are you going to change over the course of 5-7 years in prison? Will you meet other likeminded people and become more entrenched? There could be a surge of fundamentalists all released at around the same time.

But then what else do we do - we can't lock people up for life; the death penalty is not an option in my view. And the government clearly isn't very good at changing people's minds!

Some of you scare me at least as much as terrorists do, tbh

Agreed.

If they are british citizens we have to allow them back in, they are our problem.

If their twisted beliefs get them killed in a war, good.

The new defence secretary is completely out of his depth. He’s too junior to be in the job. He’s had me agog most weeks since he was appointed so I’m not surprised by this.

it's just bullshit propaganda for the masses. a panacea

He isn't actually going to do it. He's going to make people who can't think properly, think he thinks it's a good idea. Cheap popularity without having to spend more than 30 seconds thinking about it,

He'll be able to do precisely FUCK ALL when they come back to this country and he knows it.

Words are cheap and idiots buy them

What would be the right approach? I do think that joining a terrorist organisation is treasonous but I also disagree with the death penalty. And I am concerned about grooming.

the right approach is the approach that's being taken currently.
we can kill them in a war zone, as part of a conflict
we can send them to prison for terrorist offences
we cannot stop them coming back
we have agreed to abide by the geneva convention since 1949

It's illegal for a nation to deliberately make someone "stateless". So it would be illegal (under international law that Britain has agreed to), for them to strip a British citizenship if it were the only citizenship of a person.

so he's made one comment, which he can't back up by doing anything about it BY LAW but "you know" it's popular.

Fucking idiot