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To ask if this means working during school holidays

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Kleo · 03/12/2017 15:20

Sorry, posting for traffic really. I've seen a job that looks really interesting as part of leadership team (pastoral role) in a primary school. I haven't worked in a school before but have role specific experience and qualifications that mean I could evidence all essential criteria were I to apply.

Description has salary and states "52 weeks a year" which is fine, but then I wondered if this actually means the salary is the salary rather than pro rated for the academic year, and if the actual working hours would be term time plus a bit like many school roles? Or would the leadership team generally work across the school holidays?

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WhyamIBoredathome · 03/12/2017 16:40

Teachers in a state a school are paid for 195 working days per year. The pay is divided equally over 12 months.

Kleo · 03/12/2017 16:42

Thanks for the replies.

The role doesn't state anywhere on the job description or the person spec that need to be a qualified teacher, though I did think the same. It's safeguarding and they want experience of LA procedures/ability to be part of sec17/cp meetings/knowledge of thresholds etc and as a social worker working in cp in the same LA I would be able to do.

I agree my lack of school experience would be against me though the description says this would be advantageous not essential, concentrating more in the cp side. It's all a bit of an unclear description really so I guess I just need to call.

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excitedforxmas17 · 03/12/2017 16:46

I'm truly amazed that teachers/school workers don't get paid holidays. I understand that you still receive money while not working but that's covering the days you have already worked. The rest of the working population receives 52 weeks' pay for a maximum of 46.4 weeks' work.

Disgusting.

WhyamIBoredathome · 03/12/2017 16:49

Kleo it is increasingly common for schools to employ non teachers as pastoral staff.
In secondary they are not normally part of the leadership team but as primaries are smaller I guess it's possible.

WhyamIBoredathome · 03/12/2017 16:52

Oh, and it is also common for non teaching staff to be in school during the holidays.
If the job is term time only it will generally state this plus they will usually state pro rata pay. But it might be worth calling the school to check.

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 03/12/2017 16:55

I work 39 weeks per year, there is a formula used which calculates how much annual leave would be accrued over those 39 weeks and the monetary value of that leave is calculated and added to the money earned. The total is then divided into 12 equal monthly payments.

lalalalyra · 03/12/2017 16:57

If its not clear from the advert then you should ring them and ask them.

It will either mean the role works 52 weeks a year or it'll be clarifying that you'll get paid over 52 weeks (weeks worked + holiday entitlement / 12).

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 03/12/2017 16:58

I also generally work several extra days during the holidays for which I get my hourly rate not including any holiday allowance.

As I don't do full days I earn an absolute pittance (not even enough to pay income tax) but I love my job and wouldn't change it for the world.

PaddingtonLoverOfMarmalade · 03/12/2017 17:04

I can't say from a teacher's point of view but as a parent of a child with special needs I can see there is a lot of background work to make sure children feel safe and supported. If you had a child starting school in September with an EHCP, or social care needs, you would need to be around during the holidays to prepare so that things went smoothly on day one, rather than expecting them to 'make do' for the first couple of weeks. Maybe allocating TAs, updating training, etc as well.

Support staff probably are not as busy during the holidays as term time but I can see that you might need to be available if needed.

excitedforxmas17 · 03/12/2017 17:05

BuggerOff, that's good news.

I was feeling rather outraged on teachers' behalf!

user1955 · 03/12/2017 17:21

If it's Safeguarding it is highly likely to be school holiday time as well. I have to be contactable 365 days (or provide a suitable alternative contact).

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