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To Dislike chuggers!

78 replies

geekone · 29/11/2017 15:27

I know they are just doing their job but seriously! 1. No you cannot borrow 5 mins of my time unless you can somehow give me it back. 2. I am working not on mumsnet 3. I give to charity, no not yours. 4. Bloody leave me alone.

I know IABU probably

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Incitatus · 29/11/2017 16:03

“Do you want to save the tigers?” Grin

“No, I think they all deserve to die” Hmm

Shock

PizzaPizzaPizza · 29/11/2017 16:06

We get them come to our door too. The hammer on the bloody door and flap the letter box multiple times at around 7/8pm and it drives me mad!

geekone · 29/11/2017 16:07

Chowmum incitatus mwah haha

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Ginosaji · 29/11/2017 16:08

I avoid them in the street, but the worst chugger i had was about 10 years ago, it was for save the children, called me about 7pm on the phone, gave the usual spiel, as soon as i could get a word in i explained that as it was 3 days before xmas and i was a single parent with 2 kids on benefits i was unable to donate anything

Chugger: oh you have kids madam! In that case its more important that you donate!

Me: im sorry but as ive just explained its 3 days before xmas & im a single parent to 2 kids and currently on benefits so i just dont have the spare money to donate

Chugger: (in a very snarky tone) yes but madam what if it was one of your kids that needed help? As a parent its rather selfish of you not to donate!

Me: Fuck off

I honestly did try my best to be polite, but that last comment just tipped me over the edge Angry

Graphista · 29/11/2017 16:11

I'm very forthright and just say with a glare as they start to approach me 'no!' About a year ago I complained to security at my local mall as I witnessed one pursue an elderly lady through the ENTIRE MALL despite her making it clear she wasn't interested in speaking to them. To me that was harassment.

Personally I would make it illegal for them to approach anyone, they can stand with a tin for people to donate IF THEY CHOOSE and certainly no signing people up to DD's in the street! Wide open for fraud.

And yes I think it's wrong they're paid on commission too.

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 29/11/2017 16:11

We've got notices about not engaging with people at the door, but I still get stupid catalogues posted through the letterbox. I put them back outside and don't care whether they're collected.

There's a woman who lurks at the entrance to Boots locally, who gives me the rage. She tries to corner you and goes on and on. Head down and barge through now. I have complained that she's pushy, but it's made no difference.

I'll subscribe to the charities I choose, thanks very much.

Loonoonow · 29/11/2017 16:19

They are a pain but it's a job, they aren't begging or living off DM readers hard earned taxes. And as some of these responses show it's not an easy job. I breeze past/shut the door, smiling, saying 'not interested thank you'.

That being said I did sign up for one about 25 years ago before I knew what chugging was so was fooled into thinking he was a nice caring chap. The DD is still running and Shelter still get my £3 a month.....I really ought to increase that.

paddyplaistow · 29/11/2017 16:20

I have just answered the door. I thought it was my neighbour bringing me something from the chemist. I am ill. "would you like to change a life today" said the smiley chugger. I would. Mine.I closed the door.

WeirdAndPissedOff · 29/11/2017 16:21

Ugh, they drive me up the wall as well. I can see a place for them, in increasing the donations for a charity, but they're always very pushy and tend to canvas a lot where they know people are more vulnerable. Plus they take quite a large percentage of the donations.

I have actually started with a positive response a couple times before - both were charities I had an interest in, and I was happy enough to donate something. (Though both times they insisted on giving me the entire ten minute spiel on all the good the charity does, despite me trying to cut to the chase!) The first was a few years ago - I signed up to donate £10 per month, then had a phone call after about 3 months to thank me and explain again about all the good they do, and how they could do more if I could up my donation by £20 per month. No - £15 then? £10? £5? But what about the people and animals who so desperately need help? Didn't I want to help just that little bit more?
I cut them off in the end, and cancelled my direct debit. (Though I did feel a little guilty as not the charity's fault).

The second was a couple of weeks ago - same again, would be interested in donating, but had to listen to the spiel. This time I was uncomfortable from the start as I live in an area with many elderly people, several of whom are ill or vulnerable, and the speech was very clearly aimed at playing on the fears of those people. (This charity provide community ambulances and defibrillators, and what with the NHS on its knees.....). I also had to give all personal and bank details there and then apparently, and it would not be possible to do it online or at a later date. I did later check company name and it seems legit, however the end result was that the chugger was too pushy and (I felt) manipulative, so if I donate to the charity I'll be looking into and way of doing it direct.

hamptonhangingpork · 29/11/2017 16:25

I pretend to be German and not to be able to understand them.

I neither speak nor understand German beyond mumbling something that sounds like "nich vish stein" I heard actual Germans say to timeshare sellers in Fuengirola.

It has been a sterling strategy so far.

PlausibleSuit · 29/11/2017 16:28

AnneElliott I don't like the sound of Death Penalty Ken, he sounds like he might be one of those 'single issue' people. Grin

I find not making eye contact dissuades 99% of them (on the street; I live in a flat so we don't get the door callers). I can't remember who told me this and I cannot vouch for its veracity but I believe there's some rule that says they're only allowed to talk to you if you approach them. Eye contact constitutes an approach. Ergo, they start talking. That's why so many of them do silly dances, shout random phrases - it's to get you to look at them.

Steaksauce · 29/11/2017 16:35

One tried to get me once by shouting "loving the geek chic" at me as I passed Hmm
Insulting my clothes isn't going to make me stop and listen to their waffle, god knows why she thought that was a winning opener.

I can't believe they have the nerve to turn up at peoples homes though! We have a sticker on the door that says no uninvited callers and seems to put off everyone except the JW's

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/11/2017 16:37

The DD is still running and Shelter still get my £3 a month.....I really ought to increase that

I'm amazed they haven't been on the phone asking you to increase it

In an unguarded moment a friend once signed up to support the RSPCA - of all things - and was driven demented by the endless calls badgering her to increase the direct debit. Nothing she said made any difference and she had to cancel it completely in the end, just to get them off her back

EleanorAbernathy · 29/11/2017 16:37

There's been some outside our local Boots recently, and they trick you by pretending to hand you a leaflet then pulling their hand back as you go to take it so you have to either stop and talk to them or look completely awkward!

They caught me twice, I was in a rush the first time so made my excuses and ran away - the second time, as it's a charity I do have an interest in I thought I'd listen to what they had to say - but after 5 minutes of meaningless scripted small talk and not being told ANYTHING about the work the charity was doing or what they were asking for I gave up (and sent them a donation online later on directly!)

Bananalanacake · 29/11/2017 17:06

HamptonHanging: That reminds me of the time I was with my German DP in London, someone in the street started talking to him so he spoke back in German, but then they replied in perfect German! so he switched to Danish, which he can also speak, think that shut them up but I was too busy taking photos of the Elephant Parade to notice at the time.

Spangles1963 · 29/11/2017 17:09

Another one of my pet hates. I can't walk down my local high street nowadays without being besieged by them. The vast majority of them obviously have no idea about reading peoples' body language. Hence I have had one telling me to 'cheer up' when I had tears running down my face when my DM had just died. They have no idea what is going on in someone's life so should learn to tread a little more carefully if they see that someone is upset. I'm not even safe from them in shops or the shopping centre any more as bloody WH Smith now have them in the store and the shopping mall allows them in there now.

hamptonhangingpork · 29/11/2017 17:16

Banana - you both had the worst kind of luck! Ha! Grin thank heavens for the Danish though

TonicAndTonic · 29/11/2017 17:16

I can just about handle the ones in the high street (running away from them screaming is always fun) , and I get that charities need to get donations somehow. But the ones that come to my house give me the rage. They always turn up bang on dinner time! Then try and tell me all my neighbours have just donated generously even if that were actually true I don't really care what my neighbours did or didn't give thankfully we have a spy hole in our door so I just don't answer it.

Ginosaji · 29/11/2017 20:04

@TonicAndTonic i know what you mean about them turning up at dinner time, reminds me of another annoying chugger experience, this one from earlier this year

about 6pm one evening, were sitting on sofa eating our dinner while watching a movie, chugger knocks at the door, dh answers it and explains we are eating dinner

Sofa is in full view of front door and chugger even waves at me and says hello and when hubby tries to say that we cant help and are eating dinner (which he can see) the guy says he dont mind and will chat while we eat!

Hubby gives him the death stare and just shuts the door, heard the chugger call dh a twat as he walked away 😂

dangermouse7 · 29/11/2017 20:25

The worst ones (IMO) are the ones who are collecting for animal charities.

'Excuse me madam/sir......... do you like animals?'

Who the fuck doesn't like animals?! Hmm

We all know you are getting sixty quid for every mug you sign up, so don't pretend you give a shit.

I know they have got a job to do, but they really fuck me off, especially as they target the elderly, and also women ...

I have been with my young female friends and young female relatives, and had some twat young male chugger saying 'mornin' laydeeez...' you are looking very pretty today.'

FUCK.

THE

FUCK

OFF! Hmm

Surely it's time chugging was stopped??? (including the ones knocking at your door...)

When people come out with 'what if one of YOUR family needed help from this charity?' it makes me want to fucking head-butt them!

BonnieF · 29/11/2017 20:35

Chuggers are one of the main reasons why I have completely stopped donating to large corporate charities. Along with guilt-tripping advertising, harassment and exploitation of vulnerable donors, executives paying themselves six-figure salaries etc etc.

I have even given up being rude to chuggers, now I just blank them.

Iwantawhittyusername · 29/11/2017 20:45

I always remember a time I was stopped by one of these, I was teetotal at the time for religious reasons.

This particular one asked me how much I spend on myself, he was just beginning to persuade me as I was very good at self chastising in those days, till, he told me off for lying about not drinking and pushed to find out how much I "really" spent on alcohol.

Mac12345 · 29/11/2017 20:50

My husband is Dutch, so we always reply in Dutch "sorry, I don't speak English" Grin not a whole lot they can do about that!

Escapepeas · 29/11/2017 20:58

There are regularly chuggers on my route between the office and local lunch places. When they try and stop me, I smile and say no thank you. If they say ‘ok have a good day’ I say ‘thanks, you too’.

Is there a different code for people who are not normal human beings who can’t cope with other humans trying to interact with them?

bertsdinner · 29/11/2017 21:40

If I come across chuggers in the street I just say no thanks and keep walking. Im not rude to them and the chuggers just say ok, not had a rude one yet.
I dislike it on my doorstep. I find they wont shut up and without being rude, you just cannot get a word in. I think this is a tactic to gain a foothold, people are sometimes reluctant to be "rude" by butting in. I shut the door on them now, mid speech.