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Social Services and School -

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Rolf38 · 29/11/2017 14:00

Hi everyone,

I know that this isn't an AIBU (well in ways it is), however, I am posting here as I have noticed that threads here tend to get more responses. I would really be grateful for as many perspectives as possible on this.

DS is 12. He has recently been put on the Child Protection Register due to what his dad had been putting through.

I have two concerns;

Firstly, I noticed that the Headteacher of the school was on the invite list but never comes to conferences/core group meetings. Another person - the Child Protection member of staff at the school attends the meetings. Even though the headteacher does not attend the meetings, will he be aware of proceedings and his student's addition onto the Child Protection Register? Will he be aware of everything that is said at the meetings?

He is always on the invite list for the meetings along with one other from the school, who is always the one to attend. I sort of presumed that as the meetings are not at the school, he was too busy to attend - I wasn't sure if he read everything though.

Suppose that the subject of these concerns (I.e. The student) is in the head's class, would the head keep it confidential/be non judgemental? I ask because he is and is quite worried about the head (I.e. His teacher) reading and finding out what he has went through, and particularly concerned with how his teacher would feel about him being put on the register (essentially feeling a sense of shame that his teacher knows about what he has endured) . If the head (his teacher) is likely to be fully aware, will he keep it confidential and be non judgemental? Even if the head knows, will he not pass judgement on a student in his class for being on the register? My DS really is quite worried about this. There are about 1,200 students in the school. He really enjoys the head's lessons and is terrified of the head thinking badly of him for finding out what his dad has put him through. I can try and explain to him as much as I can that he won't be judged and that nothing that has happened is his fault, however, this is something that he is really sensitive about and my efforts are largely in vein.

Secondly:

I just want to ask a specific question about one of the points that was brought up about DS's education at a recent SS meeting. DS has a suspected ASD and often says that he can feel bullied and feel that he has no friends. He seems to just ignore the bullies and get on with things (he is coping well academically) - his resilience, considering what his father put him through is inspirational.

At the meeting, the member of staff from the school said that 'other children had reported their concerns' (regarding the bullying). Why would they do this (presumably they are in his class/year group)? Does this mean that (contrary to what DS believes) that there are at least some people in his year who like him. He never mentions the specific counts of bullying but is always saying how he feels that he has no friends. I don't know if you would agree, however, I sort of felt a bit of relief when I read that other children had spoken to staff about what the bullies are saying to him.

It breaks my heart to think that after all he has went through at home, he feels that he has no friends and no one likes him at school. (The teacher did describe him as 'withdrawn' - no wonder, considering he is worrying about all of this - but is coping well academically). DS is pretty much certain of an impending diagnosis of ASD, so is naturally quiet/withdrawn. I doubt that he would be interested in/could cope with the social demeandsof pursuing and maintaining deep friendships with classmates. Does the fact that others went out of their way to report mean at the very least, he has a few fellow students who like him?

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Allthetuppences · 29/11/2017 14:08

Ask the child protection officer for a 1:1 meeting to discuss how confidentiality/ professionalism might impact on your son. What can be done to help him no he doesn't neef to be ashamed or embarrassed and he has support there IF HE WANTS IT at school. As for other students. Hard to tell. Some children are just decent humans and honest. But perhaps the old chestnut of finding a club he could join to share interests with some peers might help him start to feel a bit more connected.

nellytheelephant21 · 29/11/2017 14:09

Am pm-ing you to answer your questions

Notevilstepmother · 29/11/2017 14:15

The headteacher will know what’s happening. However they won’t think badly of your son, it’s not his fault. They shouldn’t mention it either. It’s sad your son is feeling that way.

Most children know right from wrong. You don’t need to be “friends” to see that someone is being bullied, know it’s wrong and tell a teacher.

If he isn’t making friends at school an autism group may help him find other people like him.

Notevilstepmother · 29/11/2017 14:19

Some schools run programmes to help
www.aettraininghubs.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/24.3-Friendship-programme-Leics.pdf

Tiredtomybones · 29/11/2017 14:23

Yes the Head will know, no it will not impact on lessons. It might mean certain subjects or topics are handled differently/more sensitively but no teacher (Head or otherwise) worth their salt would approach your son to talk directly about it in lesson or bring it up with them. As for other children reporting incidents - yes they probably do like your son and care enough about him to not tolerate him being bullied.

Hope things settle down for you and DS.

Whoyagonna · 29/11/2017 14:28

His teacher will only share information on anything reported on a 'need to know basis with other professionals'. As a professional, he should not and most probably will not treat your child any differently, unless there are mitigating circumstances (for e.g. your child is crying, then at least the teacher is aware of what's going on).

Yes, as an invitee, he will receive minutes of all meetings.

If other children have reported bullying, then yes, it means that they have your child's back. It also means they are good kids, well schooled in what to do in the event of bullying.

Tomselleckhaskindeyes · 29/11/2017 16:09

I have been in core group meetings and all the professionals are child centered and caring about the child.

Rolf38 · 29/11/2017 17:38

I know that but I don't think he does. Deep down he thinks that he has no friends at school and that no one likes him there.

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Caroelle · 29/11/2017 18:02

It’s courtesy to invite the HT, but usual for the SG teacher to attend. The SMT at school will all be aware that your child is on a CPP, and the teaching staff should know as well. The school clearly has a successful anti-bullying policy which means that children feel able to report it. It doesn’t mean that your son has to make friends with anyone. Children who have experienced abuse all react in different ways, sometimes their behaviour can look like ASD but it’s equally likely behaviour that he has adopted as way of dealing with the problems that have lead to be on a CPP. Don’t be in a hurry to label him.

Whoyagonna · 29/11/2017 18:28

Have you tried play dates or anything over the years? Is he involved in any sport?

Rolf38 · 29/11/2017 18:52

He's medically suspected of having an ASD and amongst everything else we are currently waiting for a diagnostic assessment.

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jaimelannistersgoldenhand · 29/11/2017 19:10

My teens have reported bullying that they have seen despite grassing people up being socially unacceptable because they felt that the teacher was being ineffective/ignoring it (child 1) The bullies behaviour was escalating (child 2)

They didn't know the victims well but felt that adults needed to intervene quickly and strongly.

Rolf38 · 29/11/2017 22:46

He doesn't feel that he has any friends at school whatsoever. He's 12, and just so naturally shy. He sits on his own and says that he is too shy to engage socially with others in his classes Everyone who has met him has said that he is such a polite, caring and sensitive boy. I just hope that for all the bullying he is said to have suffered that there are at least some people in his class who are fond of him/like him.

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Rolf38 · 29/11/2017 23:12

He doesn't feel that he has any friends at school whatsoever. He's 12, and just so naturally shy. He sits on his own and says that he is too shy to engage socially with others in his classes Everyone who has met him has said that he is such a polite, caring and sensitive boy. I just hope that for all the bullying he is said to have suffered that there are at least some people in his class who are fond of him/like him.

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