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to be slightly horrified a 15 film was shown to 11 year olds?

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plumandvanilla · 27/11/2017 16:21

The film was Macbeth which they have been reading in English, but although it is Shakespeare aibu to think this is so inappropriate? Or will I be 'that parent'?

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c3pu · 27/11/2017 17:38

I remember the English teacher playing the Polanski version in year 10 (circa 1998) when we were 14/15.

He fast forwarded through the more objectional content while standing in front of the TV iirc!

Prior to that I remember doing Macbeth in Year 8 (different school), we watched an animated version with much less violence, no nudity.

RachelRosie · 27/11/2017 17:40

I remember watching the Polanski version in school when I was year 10 and being quiet shocked, but then, I am not very good with watching violence or gory content so other children may not be bothered.
The school should have asked for consent for showing a 15 to children that young.

A cinema could be fined for allowing underage children in to a 15 film so don't see why schools think they can flaunt the law without asking permission first.

Appuskidu · 27/11/2017 17:42

Is this primary or secondary? The whole film is pretty long!

plumandvanilla · 27/11/2017 17:42

I think the naked child is to highlight his innocence and vulnerability but obviously that inference will be lost on 11 yos.

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Pengggwn · 27/11/2017 17:43

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Piggywaspushed · 27/11/2017 17:43

It's not the law!!

I am on OP's side but do wish people wouldn't spout the law.
What is shown in a cinema is entirely different form what can be legally shown in a home or a school. thinks about how many pole let their 11 years olds play Call of Duty

Piggywaspushed · 27/11/2017 17:44

strike out fail and should say people . Doh

brasty · 27/11/2017 17:46

Its two and a half hours long. The children would have to have watched it for a whole morning or afternoon. That really does not sound very likely.

ohreallyohreallyoh · 27/11/2017 17:48

Hmm...this is an interesting one. As a teacher, I would say that in every school I have worked in, it has been a total no-no to show films to children that have a certificate above their age group. So, a 15 would only be appropriate in year 10 when all students are 14 and are turning 15 during the year.

If younger students are studying Macbeth, as a parent I wouldn't have an issue with any version of the film being shown and I would assume that any English teacher would first discuss how a director might interpret a text. A teacher might warn of violence and tell students they can go to another classroom if they have an issue, but on the whole, I would expect a class to want to hang around if gore and violence is on the menu!

I wouldn't complain in the situation you describe. I would, however, if the film were not about a text that was being studied as I do think it's important to keep to classifications and allow parents to make the choice if necessary.

plumandvanilla · 27/11/2017 17:54

They have double English either side of lunch on Mondays.

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HadronCollider · 27/11/2017 17:54

DS has been shown a few films at school with completely inappropriate ratings in the name of curriculum supplementation, then informed me after the fact. He was shown Schindler's List aged 12. It pisses me off. I would be annoyed too. YANBU.

Sprogletsmuvva · 27/11/2017 17:58

Biopsy - I guess the “year or so” guideline is to cater for the fact that kids in a class are going to straddle the age classification.

I don’t remember that much about the Polanski film, but the stabbing of Duncan scene still sticks with me decades later.

Tinycitrus · 27/11/2017 18:10

We were shown Threads aged 14 in a PSE lesson. That was much more traumatic.

bridgetoc · 27/11/2017 18:13

Congrats OP....... You are one of 'those' mothers.Grin

Pengggwn · 27/11/2017 18:19

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PurpleCrowbar · 27/11/2017 18:20

I have used this version with year 8. With parental permission.

Although I did once make a girl faint by over enthusiastically describing caesarian section re Macduff. Not my brightest moment to pass on my mate's likening it to 'someone doing the washing up in your stomach'.

I'd certainly let my 11yo watch it.

Not impressed by the reference to a 'nude ugly witch' in the link above. She's a perfectly ordinary looking young woman!

Always thought Young Macduff being naked in the bath was a nod to all the imagery re children & vulnerability - 'pity, like a naked newborn babe, striding the blast'.

It's a clever version. The bit that always gets me is when dodgy Ross (definitely a liberty with the text, this) lets in the murderers after commiserating with Lady Macduff & family about their plight.

The Fassbender is complete bobbins as is Sean Pertwee. James MacAvoy as chef Macbeth is much more interesting.

Cameron2012 · 27/11/2017 18:21

Roman Polanskis film is fantastic, my kids saw it when they were young and there were no adverse effects.
(12th Night with Richard Briers is fab too)

plumandvanilla · 27/11/2017 18:21

Actually bridge I haven't said anything yet.

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TheWhyteRoseShallRiseAgain · 27/11/2017 18:27

We watched it at that age and no one was traumatised or offended.

PurpleCrowbar · 27/11/2017 18:28

Do you mean Much Ado Cameron2012. Richard Briers is indeed absolutely amazing in that Smile.

12th Night has Nigel Hawthorne being brilliant as Malvolio though!

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PurpleCrowbar · 27/11/2017 18:30

The one who flashes Macbeth & Banquo is early 20s.

Then in a later scene, she is shown naked & leads Macbeth into the cave. All the other witches inside are indeed a)also naked & b) older.

PurpleCrowbar · 27/11/2017 18:34

In fact, the original 3 are maiden/mother/crone meet the Parcae. Presumably because no director is actually going to bother to include the textually dubious Hecate scene, but Polanski wanted to hint at the mythological background.

Popfan · 27/11/2017 18:34

I'd be really cross. If it's a 15 it's a 15. Parental consent should definitely have been sought for this.

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