To remind posters that the term 'Child Porn' is offensive?

[BucksFrizz]

It implies consent when they are actually images/film of children being sexually abused.
If we keep bumping this, maybe people will get the message.
Thank you

Edmund Linking the words 'Child' and 'Pornography' and 'Dirty' is the problem. And you're part of the problem.

Mumsnet was the first place I ever read that child porn was an offensive term. I agreed and have since used “images of child sexual abuse”. Since I’ve read that I’ve noticed a lot of places slowly adopting the change so I think it is starting to take hold. Can’t wait until CP becomes widely recognised as an outdated term.

Oh not you AGAIN Edmund

I've never had a problem with the phrase 'child porn' because to me the fact that it involves children just makes it wrong & I can't imagine anyone thinking otherwise. I detest hearing 'kiddie porn' though - now that suggests it's fine and lighthearted!!!

Sometimes I think it's a matter of being able to apply critical thinking as opposed to ..... not

I agree OP.

AnyFucker, I’m not saying porn is ‘dirty’ but it’s not exactly socially acceptable to admit watching it still - in general society it’s still somewhat taboo even if it’s consensual porn stars.

It’s the idea that any normal, healthy minded person would ever hear the words ‘child porn’ and think that is was anything but disgusting and non-consensual is rather beyond me. I don’t disagree with the general gist of the op - that of course it’s child abuse and that should never be minimised. It’s the idea that the general populace of MN and wider would hear the term ‘child pornography’ and think anything but ‘an abhorrent thing’, that we need eduction on the matter, is why I feel the op is rather patronising.

It doesn't imply consent at all. As far as I'm aware pornography simply means images intended to stimulate sexual arousal so as a term it seems to be factually correct. By all means everyone is entitled to present an argument for why one term is less favourable than another but to state outright that it's "incorrect" and implies consent is just making things up.

bastardkitty

Sorry am I meant to know who you are

I absolutely agree, it’s as bad as the term ‘child prostitute’, there’s no such thing. It just suggests that the child has played a part in the abuse they suffered.

In our police force the term is child abuse images not child porn. I don’t think people mean to imply consent when using the term child porn but it can come across that way.

I've never heard the term child open and thought anything other than disgusting abuse I think you're reading too much into it but if it's offensive I'll be more careful.

@user1492877024

Lets not complicate things

Oh, OK. Let's not bother with thinking about these issues. Or even beginning to wonder why they might be deemed offensive.

Stupid or what?

YANBU. In my line of work we use the term 'indecent images of children'.

In our police force the term is child abuse images not child porn

Likewise. It's supposed to be a preferred AP term as well, I understand (though not always adhered to).

Can't believe that 'child porn' is still in use.

The pornography 'industry' is massive and exploitative and a lot of people with a lot of money have a vested interest in portraying it as a world of enthusiastic, happy, consenting participants.

To imply that children might be anywhere on the same spectrum as this is mind-bogglingly offensive and dangerous.

Completely agree with this. I find the term vile and insensitive.

@slarti is correct.... pornography, technically and in its definition is images intended to sexually excite. There is no implication of consent in the term pornogeaphy.

So the phrase child porn would seem factually correct..... but as I stated earlier I have learnt from this thread many find it offensive.

YANBU, I also hate that phrase. There's no such thing as child porn, it's child abuse.

And again @mittens, prostitution by definition has no mention of consent. So a child who is engaged in prostitution, whilst certainly wrong and being exploited (and I don’t mean the child is wrong/criminal I mean the situation is tragic and wrong), surely
The phrase child prostitute is accurate?

Porn = an adult activity that both particpants have volunteered to take part in (in an ideal world...)

Child abuse = not porn

YY to 'indecent images of children' or 'images of children being abused'

But I think a lot of people just use the phrase without thinking about it or what it means

I absolutely agree, it’s as bad as the term ‘child prostitute’, there’s no such thing. It just suggests that the child has played a part in the abuse they suffered.
I totally disagree. Even if a child was technically voluntarily selling themselves for sex you'd not think they'd 'played a part in the abuse', you'd think they'd had a seriously shit life to have them end up like that. And really you're going to assume they're being forced into it like some women are.
The second you put the word 'child' into a situation that involves sex like that then you should be feeling sick - it doesn't matter what words you use, it's the activity behind them that counts. Don't waste time having a go at people for using 'the wrong words', put all your emotions into solving the basic problem.

According to whom? I may be extremely dim here, but I’ve never heard the term ‘child pornography’ and ever thought there was even a consideration that there was any ‘consent’ on the child’s side. The word ‘child’ is explicit enough in deducing that it’s a very wrong thing, whilst ‘ponography’ has always been associated with something ‘dirty’. Child ponography is the term used to say ‘there is physical evidence of this abuse taking place’ or ‘physical evidence of this person engaging in abuse’. I thought that was pretty clear up until now...

I thought that what I'm about to write was pretty clear, but obviously not. Pornography may be associated with something dirty by some people but it's also considered to be something which is largely acceptable to own or watch (in that the owner/viewer is unlikely to be considered as an actual or potential sex offender) and consensual. Images of child abuse are not that. It's incredibly hurtful and fucking offensive. Please, if you use that term, stop.

I agree it’s vile and will never use that term