..to be depressed by the man-haters on AIBU?

[Polidori]

So many threads on AIBU get me down. They are full of posters who think that men can't see mess. That men can't be expected to know whether they have consent. That men can't be expected to parent. Men can't be expected to tell the difference between harassment and friendliness. Men can't work washing machines. Men need to have respectful behaviour clearly explained to them by their partners. Men can't be expected to figure out what 50% of the housework is.
These women have such a horribly low opinion of men.
Thank goodness, there are also feminists on here who expect men to be equals with the ability to behave as capable adults.

Julie I really don't think you can call someone refusing to do housework or look after their own children, a quirk!

That's silly OP, AIBU isn't a luvvie storybook it's people's lived experiences. "Depressed" is a bit strong isn't it? Some of us have decent partners but can still support and advise others who don't. It's called empathy - try it, you may even like it.

I suppose the Relationships board has you rolling on the ground wild eyed gnashing teeth and wailing then.

Dances I don't think OP is talking about the women who complain about things their partner might do, but more the women who will reply to defend him/tell you you're BU to complain. I may be wrong though....

Although im guessing this is another excuse to start a spate of woman bashing, and put women off seeking advice for problems they're going through. Will this post/topic be on the "other" MN let's hate scorn laugh at women forum over at Reddit soon? Where posters are singled out, their problems mocked and deemed unreal? Im guessing so.

angels

Thats how i read it

Angels, that's exactly right.

MistressDeeCee that's not the idea at all. I entirely support women in these awful situations seeking advice, and I despair when the advice given amounts to "carry on letting him take advantage and abuse you because men can't be expected to behave any better"

I agree. And the ones who seem to regard men as easily-bewildered domestic animals who can be trained with 'treats' not to shit on the carpet - so if your man won't do the dishes, coax him to do them by offering a blowjob... because you are a mad, precious, feminazi bitch if you think that men should do their share of domestic work as a matter of routine...

Also, MistressDeeCee you might check the post before adopting such a patronising tone. I'm not complaining about the women who seek advice about or complain about their lazy partners. I'm complaining about the posters who go to extraordinary lengths to defend the men by suggesting that it's not their fault

Absolutely spot on reanimated. Thank you

I do see your point, but I can't help but think it'd be more productive to try and get these men to stop being so useless. Rather than directing all your ire at women who you think are responding to the men's uselessness in the wrong way

Yanbu, but also we dont actually know they are women making those posts.

I've seen man hating...but not in the way you describe OP.

it's more in the sense that the man is always wrong.

If the wife cheats..it's his fault.

If she claims nothing happened when her Ex spent the night..the becomes jealous and controlling avd she better look out for the glaring red flags.

It's the double standard... which I don't like. The double standard where the man must be at fault.

I understand what you mean op. Some (not all by any means) posters who give advice seem to have a low opinion of men and not believe that they’re capable of putting a wash on or remembering to give a toddler their lunch. However this tends to work in men’s favour because it lets them off doing their fair share of the shitwork and leaves them free to focus on work and golf etc

Nobody comes into AIBU, or anywhere on mumsnet, to start a thread about how wonderful their partner is.

People come here to moan like fuck.