To think that Barbie advert can piss off?

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Starts with a small girl giving a lecture to a room full of adults, then switches to showing her actually playing with barbies. Then says something about how when you're playing with Barbie you can be anything you want to be.

Huh, really? Like something other than an anatomically inaccurate sexualised image of a woman? DFOD.

Anyone seen it?

I mean, What kind of message is Dickless Ken giving to children?

Yeah, you're absolutely right. My kids can only play with wooden blocks and an abacus. I'm the idiot.

I mean, it doesn't matter that experts in child psychology have written at length on these issues right? That there are multiple studies backing up these documented problems?

But yeah. Hahahha. How hilarious.

I loved playing with Barbies when I was little and thought the advert was good.

Yeah op, we get it.... you have read a few articles and want to amaze us all with this new found ‘knowledge’ of yours......go you!!

But what do you expect us to actually do??

Hardly.

And to reiterate AGAIN, my issue was with the advert, not a campaign to ban Barbie. It would be nice if people questioned things a little more than some clearly do, but hey, that's never going to change.

It would be nice if people questioned things a little more than some clearly do, but hey, that's never going to change

People are doing just that on this thread. They are questioning things -
and some of them are disagreeing with you.

Haven't seen much evidence of that personally, but you're obviously entitled to your opinions.

The first Barbie wasn’t a porn doll, as said by a previous poster – you’re confusing it with Bild Lili, who was a German doll, based on a newspaper strip. Original Barbie had, in her first years, jobs such as a Fashion Editor, Ballerina, Nurse, Flight Attendant, Tennis Pro, Ice Skater, Executive, Astronaut, Teacher Pan Am Flight Attendant and so on. Ruth Handler wanted girls to be able to “be” these things in play. Barbie has a friend who uses a wheel chair, one called Ella, that CureSearch for Children’s Cancer provides every young cancer fighter with. Since Ella Dolls are bald, they are a great way to help children better understand hair loss that is common among cancer patients. The only Barbie dolls seen in this country are the pink princesses, which is a shame. There have been over 100 varied careers for her, but they don’t appear in the UK very often.

Haven't seen much evidence of that personally Perhaps you're only seeing what you want to see. A common mistake to make.

The ever present hum of misogyny running through everyday life is so subtle and so normal to us that it can be almost invisible.

It's just a woman holding up round cards.
It's just a woman in the advert hoovering.
It's just a music video.
It's just a plastic doll.
It's just a few less women in the board room.

It's just 100+ years before we have equal pay
www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/gender-pay-gap-100-years-close-campaign-fawsett-society-women-men-colleagues-income-wage-group-a8046121.html

It's a shame we can't discus it without the cheap shots. The wooden toy stuff ect. It's only one step away from You're just jealous.

I'm happy to see the all shapes and sizes barbies.

@madmags there are actually 2 paleontologist Barbies!

Is there a mum Barbie? Serious question- are they all really young women?

There's a knocked up Steffi.

No idea whether she's in a serious relationship or a teen mum having a ONS though. The packaging doesn't say.

www.amazon.com/Steffi-Love-Welcome-Baby-Simba/dp/B000ESMQQO/ref=pd_sim_21_5?psc=1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=mumsnetforum-21&refRID=TJ4WV080YXZEXCRWHS3W

Oooh it's got a baby! I wonder how it 'births'?

I wasn’t allowed Barbies as a child because of her proportions. I ended up overweight and resentful of ‘not being allowed’ what, to me as a child, was a TOY. I didn’t give a shit what she looked like, I just wanted to play. I played with her a huge amount at me friends next door but never told my mum

Now, my DD has barbies, she also has sylvanians families, babies, rag dolls, a dolls house with wooden family etc. She just loves dolls. She doesn’t notice or care what size/shape they are. Because she’s 3. I hate it when adults force their own perceptions onto children - that is where the issues come from.

I agree with OP

Those fucking gtech hoover adverts want me to heave something at the telly

Thank goodness for tivo

Its the steady drip drip drip

I'm always surprised at the very limited ethnic diversity in barbie range. (Bit of a digression)

dances

My aunt struggled to find black baby dolls for her two girls

mom i wasn't allowed a girls world head, a barbie or an etch-a-sketch. Most of my mates had them and i'd make a bee line straight for them when i went to their houses.

I've ended up with 4 daughters and they've had barbies, brats, GW heads, girls dress up shoes, that pregnant doll thing and a pink plastic kitchen. (For clarity they also had three hundred weight of lego, digger toys, toy cars, trains, farm and dinosaur figures, action men and a couple of plastic guns and it all got played with equally and all lumped in together. Cow boy shoot outs round the plastic kitchen anyone? )

We saw loads of Barbies in a US toy store - quite a lot of ethnic diversity available there.

OP, I think your problem is with Barbie, not the advert. The advert is great! It's about girls playing with dolls and imagining themselves into all kinds of careers. If you don't like Barbie's shape, that's fair enough, but the advert has nothing to do with that.

Of course it does - you can't separate the product from the advertising of it in this situation.

Had the advert been for a charity encouraging girls participation in STEM fields? Great.

For this particular brand, telling girls that they can be anything after perpetuating a standard of beauty that's white, impossibly thin and impossibly proportioned... its hypocritical.

just a few "impossibly thin" Barbies - non white