To want there to be coral reefs in the future

[ringle]

Just that really.
Yes, just watched blue planet 2....

I do, but I’m primarily concerned about all these people existing in the first place and all needing to be fed. It’ll be nigh on impossible and the fall out on the planet will be horrific.

James, you might like to look at the maps above.(vitalogy's link)

Africa has been exploited for so long. This is from the link below: much of the profits from resource exploitation leave the continent entirely in the hands of foreign-owned companies which pay low rates of tax.
Few African countries process their own raw materials - rather, the value is added elsewhere, to the benefit of others.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19926886

*If they'd been able to benefit from their own resources it would be a different story.

Again Vitalogy, I don't think anyone would disagree.

I accept that "concern about population" can be a mask for something much more basic/base/worrying. I did not like that Telegraph article.

I think Attenborough is trying to find a responsible way to talk about a difficult topic. He basically sees us as a kind of animal: dominating everything for now but not immune from the consequences.

I finally found the name of the programme! High recommended for you
m.youtube.com/watch?v=_zHcX9gGCHc

Well we are where we are aren’t we (that was a mouthful)? So history or not, DA’s concerns still stand.

Yes James.

But just as racists try to grab Darwin for themselves, so they also try to co-opt concern about population.

I think Vita's key point is that you have to look very very carefully at the motivation and credentials of folk who say there are too many people because this has a dark history.

I feel Attenborough can be trusted. Obviously those with different beliefs would choose someone else to trust e.g. a religious leader.

So you’re satisfied like me that DA is not racist? I wouldn’t have even raised it to be honest.

This can be discussed around in circles but the problem will remain and for me at present, I don’t have a solution for what’s going to happen.

Yes, absolutely, I trust him.

however I am not religious, am pro choice, etc, etc.

Strange, this thread has gone off my "I'm on"
Interesting thread ringle, I'll check for updates though.