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Drugs in prison

41 replies

Mrsfloss · 09/11/2017 19:29

Am I totally naive?

My brother is serving a longish prison service for fraud. He has admitted to using spice, Valium and drinking in prison. He has been offered crack and heroin.

He absolutely deserves his sentence but I can’t get head around him being smashed when my Mum visits. What the hell? How on earth do they get it?

It’s a different world for me but I just can’t comorehend how all these prisoners can get drugs inside?

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IrritatedUser1960 · 09/11/2017 21:14

Drones, they are always flying over the fence of the prison I work in. not enough staff to always spot them.

catboygeckoandowlett · 09/11/2017 21:16

Mumof - visitors put drugs in their rectum (when officers aren't looking whip them out quick and pass to prisoner who hides theirs up ther rectum!) and hide them in other places not found in searches

FruitCider · 09/11/2017 21:20

* How do visitors bring drugs in to prisons as I thought they got body scanned or checked by guards ( or does that just happen in films ?*

Body scanners only detect metal, they don’t detect drugs. They hide drugs in bodily cavities, the same as prisoners. Prison officers are not allowed to search cavities of prisoners or visitors.

happinessischocolate · 09/11/2017 21:57

How do visitors bring drugs in to prisons as I thought they got body scanned or checked by guards ( or does that just happen in films ?)

You only get the same search you get in an airport, so shoes and coat off although not always, and then through a metal detector. Then a quick search by a warden which concentrates on your ankles, waistband and neck. There used to be 2 drug dogs too, but they all seem to have gone.

happinessischocolate · 09/11/2017 22:02

. I recall my uncle being in prison, and my dad being warned by a prison guard not to give uncle money or he'd just spend it on drugs.

You can’t give a prisoner money, it gets put in their account and then they spend a set amount on buying stuff from the prison shop which they call canteen. Drugs aren’t paid for from the canteen money.

Namethecat · 09/11/2017 22:04

I worked in a prison for a good few years. Prisoners being in all manner of items rectally. Visitors as well. One mother of a prisoner was caught trying to pass her son drugs via her mouth by French kissing him ! Wives and girlfriends by putting drugs in their babies nappies. Sadly every way had been tried.

FruitCider · 09/11/2017 22:05

True happiness but they can use credit on their canteen to buy items which are then traded for drugs.

Mrsfloss · 09/11/2017 22:12

How do they get the drug money then?

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happinessischocolate · 09/11/2017 22:18

How do they get the drug money then?

A friend of the buyer gives it to a friend of the seller.

DorisDangleberry · 09/11/2017 22:21

Another thing that prisoners do is stockpile fruit from the canteen and then ferment into 'hooch', which is fairly nasty homebrew

There have also been cases of homemade stills being found, using illicit mobile phone chargers to distill hooch into moonshine

Namethecat · 09/11/2017 22:24

Yes family / or friend of A will pass into family/friends of b. Or they will rack up owing for when they get out. Remember drugs will be way more expensive there than in the outside. Also sadly they may go in just being used to smoking puff. But that stays in your system longer than heroin so they start taking that as it does not stay as long.

wobblywonderwoman · 09/11/2017 22:28

If they lob the stuff over the wall, how does the person who its meant for get it? Surely it is a scramble and expensive for the person throwing it over to just risk it?

BarbarianMum · 09/11/2017 22:29

Most prisons aren't the sort if places where you can safely appropriate someone elses drugs.

Namethecat · 09/11/2017 22:34

Prisoners who work outside (but obvs within the prison perimeter ) are given a cut of or are bullied into picking up stuff. They will have an officer or OSG ( still uniformed staff but not an officer grade ) looking after a group of workers who will be keeping the area clean and tidy /gardening etc.

happinessischocolate · 09/11/2017 22:36

He absolutely deserves his sentence but I can’t get head around him being smashed when my Mum visits.

If your brother hasn’t got a prison job then he could be spending 23 hours a day in his cell, which makes taking drugs an attractive option just to eat up the hours. Maybe your mum could tell him to knock it off in visit day? And that if he’s off his face when she visits she’ll get up and leave, you can do this.

It’s a whole different world and I think it’s hard to judge prisoners actions as we have no comprehension of the life they lead inside.

FruitCider · 10/11/2017 09:50

It’s a whole different world and I think it’s hard to judge prisoners actions as we have no comprehension of the life they lead inside.

I think this is really key. Their “society” has different rules and morals to our own. I don’t really blame prisoners for being sucked into it. Even as a prison detox nurse I’ve changed beyond comprehension and I’ve got no idea if I will ever be able to work outside of prisons. Just little things, like my dchild cuddling up to me yesterday evening and sucking their thumb contently, it really touched me and I snuggled into them and for 30 minutes I felt content too. I had a moment of being normal. Because my job really isn’t** normal. Walking towards a fire, towards a fight, it isn’t normal.

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