To ask people having fireworks this weekend to employ some common sense?

[Frillyhorseyknickers]

If you're having fireworks, and you live near horses or any sort of livestock, please have the forthought to go round and tell them your plans, so they can take steps to protect their animals, horses in particular are flight animals.

My friend's horse was badly injured this week as no one thought to let them know theneighbours were having fireworks.

www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/horse-left-badly-injured-leaps-702824

Please also think about how mindlessly stupid it is to send burning flames up into the sky (fireworks, Chinese lanterns) as they end up setting fire to straw stacks, livestock buildings etc etc.

@bubble - I can see your point. However, if you lived near a group who you knew would be badly affected by the fireworks, wouldn't it just be common decency to warn the group so they could be prepared? Yes we all know it's bonfire weekend night, and we know the times of organised displays but we don't know that 3 doors down is having a massive party or 2 doors the other way are not having any, therefore it's impossible to predict. Yes there will be fireworks but the proximity does make a difference - the closer they are the louder they are and the more risk there is of them landing on barn/stable roofs and possibly causing a fire.

Honestly if my neighbour had an animal or child who couldn't handle loud noises of course I would warn them, and tbh probably even consider not having them. What I wouldn't do is consider the needs of imaginary people just in case

Lucky for me, people have just started setting off fireworks here (built up area but with a riding school less than half a mile away)

If you have animals you should have the forsight to plan accordingly for events such as these. You shouldn’t need others to remind you.

Yes but they are Edmund so its tough.

For now. I trust one day our government will take people's concerns about fireworks seriously. They really are a menace and danger to society. At the very minimum they should be to put to some serious controls - only being able to buy them from certain places, always require ID to buy, only allowed to set them off on certain days of the year, requiring council permission to set them off on 'none set days' and fine the hell out of anyone breaking those rules.

Yes I agree. I'm sure fireworks days are numbered.

Most of the local farmers I know plan for Diwali, Bonfire Night, and Christmas / New Year even if nothing happens.

Fireworks are an essential part of Diwali and Chinese New Year. So if they are banned expect the ban to be unenforceable.

If we could have a set night or nights that they would be allowed to be set off or a curfew that would solve some of the problems round here

I am all for fireworks displays in safe organised environments what scares me is the fact the any one regardless of ability, common sense or intelligence can buy explosives and set them off were they want.

All that will happen near us this fireworks night is:

Children/ babies kept up all night
Very scared animals
Litter from fireworks every where
Unbelievable noise all night
Street will stink like smoke all night and next day
Our neighbours will get drunk and let their kids shoot the fireworks where they want.

I really can’t wait ......

What I wouldn't do is consider the needs of imaginary people just in case

They're not 'imaginary' though are they? You might know next door has a badly sleeping baby, or number 4 across the road has pets. That doesn't mean you know Charlie down the road is recovering after a tour of duty, or Sarah in the house behind you is looking after her father with dementia. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere, you don't know how you're affecting people, but it doesn't mean these people don't exist.

They are imaginary though, because as you say I have no idea whether they exist or not.

They are imaginary though, because as you say I have no idea whether they exist or not.

No, they could or could not exist. You not knowing is not the same as 'imaginary'. The chances that someone in your vicinity will be negatively affected by fireworks is probably statistically quite high. Fireworks are very loud and bright, in a residential area a large number of people could see/hear them. The chances that one of them/their pets would be terrified/affected is not 'imaginary', it's a very real possibility. By minimising it to 'unless I know these people myself, they're not real' is basically saying 'I don't care to know if my actions are affecting others'.

But I've already told you I don't care enough. You're just being picky now.

If you have animals you should have the forsight to plan accordingly for events such as these. You shouldn’t need others to remind you
How do you plan for 2+ weeks?

What Raizel said.

I live in a 'fast expanding' town with housing estates being hurled up at high speed, and all this new housing has tiny, tiny yards and gardens all of which are back to back. People want their pretty lights and big bang and to get to go 'oooh', so set them off from their 6 foot square yard with zero fucks of where they go. Because it's all about them.

The fireworks hit the roofs, windows, cars (leave lovely dents), go in ponds and kill fish, they've started fires on decking and on roofs, they land in the street. No one's been hit yet but give it time. In these houses crammed together it's like spending days in a bloody warzone. Right now in broad daylight I can hear them going off, so there are youths down in the underpass to the shopping centre letting off rockets again. People cannot be relied upon not to be selfish, stupid twats, and it's very fashionable to not give a fuck about anyone else.

Witness the people here saying stuff the elderly, people with autism, people with MH and PTSD, very young children and babies (toddler in our street was terrified for days last year), anyone with animals, people who just plain don't like it. It goes on for WEEKS.

Organised displays only.

The private houses opposite us love their fireworks and always seem to aim them this way (the social housing side) if they cause a fire i would be rocking up at theirs expecting somewhere to live!

But I've already told you I don't care enough. You're just being picky now

I truly hope one day you're not in a reverse position, where you realise how someone 'not caring' whilst you or someone you care about is suffering due to someone's selfish wants and actions is a rather awful position to take. Especially over fireworks night, which quite frankly is an embarrassing, meaningless 'tradition' as it is.

How are the youngsters setting them off getting hold of them? From shopkeepers who just want profit profit profit and fuck everything and everyone else.

You don't truly hope that Edmund. Your posts seem really odd to me. It's almost like you're trying to guilt trip a complete stranger into doing what you want

to all the posters quoting me saying

It's no more disruptive than cars driving past, dogs barking or drunk people singing, which happen pretty much every night throughout the summer.

I'm referring to the weekly display, where I live, as quieried by a previous poster.

This is not in anyone's back garden. It's on a beach. Please read properly and refrain from mis-quoting people.

If you have animals you should have the forsight to plan accordingly for events such as these. You shouldn’t need others to remind you

Oh right. How do you plan for something that can start mid-October and go on until the end of December? You can plan for November 5th and you can plan for NYE. You can't plan for the person who bought a box of explosives from Tesco setting them off in their back garden on a random Tuesday in the middle of October. Nor can you plan for the kids that bought them and are throwing them at cars on 31st October. What about people too? We get it, you don't give a shit about the animals, so what about the people who are terrified? Do they matter?

And Edmund I'm laughing at you suggesting that I don't live in a place where fireworks are let of regularly, when the quote you used is referring to the WEEKLY all year round display where I live.

Read before you quote.

I wish people would stick to public displays or at least be required to apply for a license to have a private display, and inform neighbours at least a week in advance.

I have enough problems with random displays and my cats, one of whom is terrified by them and will hide. If I know in advance, at least I can keep them indoors where they are safe. It must be a nightmare for horses, life stock and wild animals.

ToastyFingers and if what you actually read what I said, I was actually suggesting you have little insight to how awful it is, since you can 'barely hear them' and oddly compared them to a passing car. To anyone living nearby (I mean actually nearby), they are absolutely awful to listen to on a nightly bases for weeks/months on end.

Some people really cannot see beyond themselves. 'It's not affecting me so why should I care/I don't see why it bothers others', I'm seeing this attitude more and more often sadly.