To overtake on motorway left hand lane?

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DP says I am. But I hate when you are on a busy motorway, and someone is sitting in the middle lane, and will not move to the left hand lane, even though it is empty. While at the same time the right hand lane is packed with cars, making it hard to pull out into the right hand lane and still leave decent distances. So I have occasionally just overtaken the middle lane hogger in the left hand lane. I know the Highway Code says you should not, but sometimes it seems the safest option.

Migraleve never before have I laughed at a poster's username and the sheer aptness of it. I don't understand your reasoning AT ALL.

What’s not to understand? You don’t proceed in the left hand lane if someone is in the middle lane going slower. You overtake them on the right.

The only exceptions to undertaking/passing in the left/whatever description you choose are

1. Slow moving traffic - that’s crawling and congested traffic

1. When the car in the lane to your right is turning right

1. When the road is split and your lane is going off in a different direction (not a slip but a continuation of lane)

Aside from this you pass on the right.

I’m utterly amazed that people find it laughable to abide by the Highway Code.

I would urge everyone to ignore Migraleve. She is talking dangerous nonsense. I have had to direct her to the HC, and now I see she is already misquoting it.

The fact she refuses to distinguish between undertaking and passing on the inside shows her lack of comprehension, and her refusal to even try to understand.

For example, she writes:

1. Slow moving traffic - that’s crawling and congested traffic

Nowhere in the HC does it mention an exception is for slow moving traffic, and nowhere does it mention "crawling".

She is making things up all the time and now she is mixing up her false statements with the HC wording. Please ignore her - she is a dangerous driver.

She is making things up all the time and now she is mixing up her false statements with the HC wording. Please ignore her - she is a dangerous driver.

Actually what I am doing is wasting my time trying to explain. There is nothing remotely made up ability any of my posts. You overtake on the right. It really is that simple. You absolutely do not continue along in the left hand lane and ignore everything to your right.

You have absolutely no idea if I’m even a driver, let alone that I am a dangerous one.

Mumsnet Central - please could you organise an authority on this subject to do a Q&A for us?
I think that would be great if someone who 100% knows the answer and has a position that nobody is going to question could give us the absolute answer. If there is not an absolute answer then that is important to know too, and for the govt to address.
There is clearly a lot of confusion about this life and death subject.
Some strongly held views here must be wrong, and that is dangerous.

Migraleve

There is nothing remotely made up ability any of my posts.

OK I ask you then: where does it say:
Slow moving traffic - that’s crawling and congested traffic?

Where is there any mention of crawling and slow moving traffic in the motorway overtaking section of the HC?

The theory test is based on the HC. So why not make it easy for yourself to pass the test by just typing 'It's only the Highway Code. I just ignore it because you don't have to folllow it if you don't want to'?

My own word was crawling. Quite literally my own description. One word.

Migraleve
My own word was crawling. Quite literally my own description. One word.

Good. You admit you made that up. Thank you.

Now, what about slow moving? Where is that in the HC?

Oh and because I used the word crawling as part of a post formed of many other words, to simplify and describe something doesn’t make it wrong.

For the 3rd time

GOADY FUCKER.

My point still remains. Irrespective of language.

Ok. Just give it up. I haven’t made anything up. Not a single thing.

Migraleve
I haven’t made anything up. Not a single thing.

Except the bit where you added the crawling as a Migraleve special condition of driving rules.

So where does it say slow moving traffic if you haven't made that bit up either?

Jesus wept. I never made it up. I used different words to describe it. Seriously, no one is actually this obtuse?

I am however interested to note that instead of discussing the point you are nit picking my language

Rule 163 of the HC states:

stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left

I would say “moving slowly” and “slow moving traffic” amount to the same thing.

Migraleve You simply CANNOT make things up like this. When you say I used different words to describe it you are making things up and adding your own parts to very important rules. This is dangerous and this is how drivers misconstrue and tailor very clear rules of the roads to suit themselves.

Despite me asking numerous times, you cannot point me to the part where the HC said slow moving traffic because you and I and everyone else here knows it doesn't say that at all. You made it up. You pretend now it's not important. It is very important because you are here telling people in certain conditions -which you are making up- you are allowed or not allowed to do things.

For clarity to everyone who may have become confused by your post. The HC does not mention anything about if other traffic is crawling or about slow moving traffic. You do NOT have to be in slow moving traffic or in traffic that is crawling to pass slower moving vehicles on the inside.

You need to just drop it FlowerPot.

Except that the HC does talk about slow traffic Flower. It’s a rule for when there’s congestion. I’ve never been in fast flowing congestion. Now that would be a scary experience!

flowers

I love how you feel you have some sort of right to tell everyone I am wrong and that your word is gospel. But yeah, carry on.

Hope you're interested in this then, have a read

This bit Migraleve?

Rule 267
Do not overtake unless you are sure it is safe and legal to do so. Overtake only on the right

OVERtake on the RIGHT.....in case you missed it

This might clarify

Rule 268
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake

Perhaps you should have a read yourself

OVERtake on the RIGHT.....in case you missed it

I’m not sure why you have mentioned my name? I have been saying this for HOURS??

Flowers the reason I am confused because the first statement of rule 268 of the Highway Code says: Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake.

To me that seems fairly clear that you shouldn’t pass cars on the left, the fact that is has ‘or move to a lane on the left to overtake’ to me shows that’s it’s addressing two different situations. One where you are in the left lane and are going faster than the cars to your right (do not overtake on the left) the second where you purposefully move left to overtake a car (or move to a lane on the left to overtake). In both cases it says don’t do it.

You say the first example is ok, but I can’t see where the Highway Code says that hence me asking for you to show me. My reading is it says not to.

Read rule 163 about passing vehicles in slow moving traffic.