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To think most people don't deserve their nannies/childminders

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Sienna333 · 31/10/2017 21:45

Honestly I am shocked at how some of my colleagues/friends treat their nannies/childminders. Things from-

  1. Not paying guaranteed hours
  2. Messing them around with hours and days of work
  3. Making it clear they are 2nd best and using family members if they are around even if it is the nannies shift.
  4. Not really caring about their physical wellbeing.
  5. Way they speak to them at times in an abrupt and rude way.

Seems to me that they start off treating them great and then it slowly slides. Why do they want to piss off their support when that person could leave them high and dry with no notice? Everyone has got a limit and as a past nanny I have left for reasons listed above also.

In my eyes if I could afford part time help I would treat that nanny/childminder like gold. It upsets me to see so many childcarers treated like crap.

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Callaird · 31/10/2017 22:23

Bitch bit butch!

LaurieMarlow · 31/10/2017 22:36

Well we used to have a shared nanny and the couple we shared with were terrible about paying invoices on time. We were often caught in the middle of it.

It was appalling.

Callaird · 31/10/2017 22:45

I do think I am fortunate that I have lovely families who trust me implicitly and from the very beginning when I have taken sole charge of their precious children (youngest I've had are 7 week old twins although I've had younger siblings but they knew me well by then as I'd had their older child for a few years) while they go back to work full time.

My families respect me and treat me as they would want to be treated by their employer. I get sick pay (but then I never take the piss with sick days, have been with my current family 3.5 years and haven't had a single day off sick. In 32 years I have had 11 days off, which is stated in my references)

I get all my holidays paid, even if they go over their allowance.

They are very rarely late but they let me know the second they know they are going to be late, not at the time they are due home.

Most of my charges grandparents have walked in, said give me my grandchildren and go and take a break until xx time, I still get paid for that time. My bosses wouldn't even think not to pay me.

I think you need to refine your interviewing technique. Remember you are interviewing them as well as them interviewing you. Ask what would happen in the scenarios you have posted about and if they say if you don't work we don't pay you, you say thanks for your time but your family is not what I'm looking for and leave.

And make sure you have a water tight contract that says they pay you for your contracted hours even if you are not needed. That they will pay you on time or they pay any bank/company fines that you get for having insuffient funds (mine also states £25 a day late charges for the inconvenience of having to call everyone and make another payment, not because I've ever not been paid on time but because I've read/heard stories like yours and I won't take the chance.

If you have a good track record for illness, tell them you have never taken the piss and that you'd like xx days at full pay and xx days at statutory pay.

Sienna333 · 31/10/2017 23:03

I am not a nanny, used to be but not now.

I don't get why some treat their nannies like dirt and so clearly don't respect or care for them yet they entrust them with their previous children. I really don't get it.

I am glad to see nannies/childminders who have had good experiences though.

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catbas · 31/10/2017 23:09

I don't know anyone who does any of those things. Also I worship the ground ours walk on, they are part of the family and are treated as such.

famousfour · 31/10/2017 23:33

I don't recognise the behaviour and attitudes you mention. Most families I know have a good mutually respectful relationship with their nannies / childminders. It doesn't wholly surprise me though that some might take advantage. Our former cleaner used to also work as a nanny for another family. It became apparent to me that they expected her to be available for specified days but only paid her the hours when they actually needed her on those days and she got little warning. Disgraceful in my opinion.

Sienna333 · 31/10/2017 23:35

That's what happened to me and I know a few other families who think that is acceptable. Like I said, I don't know how they sleep of a night treating someone like that especially someone who is helping you as a family.

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PerfectlyDone · 31/10/2017 23:37

So, you changed your statement from 'most' to 'some' - that is something I can agree with.

I bloody LOVE my nanny, she is a god-send and I tell her that frequently. We pay her well, she has lots of flexibility to use her time the way she sees fit and in return she is very flexible for me. This is an arrangement that suits us both well.

There are terrible employers in all businesses although I'm sure a lot of abuse does happen in domestic jobs or other very small businesses.

Lindy2 · 31/10/2017 23:50

I'm a childminder and the families of the children I look after are great. I treat them with respect and they treat me respectfully too.
I've been minding 6 years and have never had any major problems. The odd niggle maybe but that's pretty normal in most jobs.
If I had problems like you are describing I'd give notice to that family and refill the place with another child.

Sienna333 · 01/11/2017 07:25

I am pleased and reassured to hear my experiences are not as common as I thought. It's good that people appreciate their childcarers, it isn't an easy job.

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uptheclydeinabananaboat · 01/11/2017 07:35

My childminder is a godsend and I wouldn't dream of messing her around.

LorelaiVictoriaGilmore · 01/11/2017 07:54

Without our nanny, my life would fall apart. I pay her as much as I can afford to (gross £36k a year which is most of my after-tax salary), she gets four weeks paid holiday a year but I give her extra days on top of that, paid sick leave, extra money to do activities with ds, I take her out for lunch regularly, give her at least £100 gifts for birthdays/Christmas (as much as I can afford)... I wish I could afford to pay her more!

I'm sure that some employers do treat their nannies badly but I really hope it's not the norm. A good, reliable nanny is a godsend to many of us!

Sienna333 · 01/11/2017 12:44

I am glad to read these positive stories

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Twofishfingers · 01/11/2017 12:54

Well this thread really surprises me. You often have threads on here demanding completely unreasonable things from childminders and nannies, people complaining that the nanny hasn't had time to cook, clean, pick up the kids and take them swimming and do all the ironing within two hours. So OP, I am with your original post - I do think that many people take advantage of childminders and nannies.

Not all, but many more than people acknowledge here. Just have a look at the thread that has 700+ messages about someone who wants a nanny who will be available to work 24 hours a day...

Let's not talk about the thread a few weeks ago where a mother wanted to tell her nanny that she shouldn't have a break during her 12 hour shift...

Sienna333 · 01/11/2017 12:58

I do personally think some bosses think they are the best bosses ever when in reality they are not and piss the nanny about in terms of their hours, pay or just general respect. Having said that the posts on here, you can see the mums genuinely value their child carers and I wish I had worked for some of you.

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