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Just a friendly reminder...

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SpareChangeDownTheSofa · 27/10/2017 22:47

Anyone who owns black cats please remember to keep them in over Halloween. A lot of people on Halloween night and Mischief Night (the night before) think its fun to harm or even kill black cats for superstitious reasons.

So just a friendly reminder to keep all of your kitties safe! Halloween Smile

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isitme88 · 28/10/2017 11:22

I don’t get why people are getting annoyed by this post. Thanks for the reminder. I don’t have a black cat, but def think it’s safer to keep him in during the next few nights. He won’t like t though!

SilverSpot · 28/10/2017 11:26

Black cats are amazing, basically mini panthers

Mulch · 28/10/2017 11:29

My sisters cat was tied to a motorbike and dragged down the road by a bunch of chavs. several other cats in the area went missing. It's sad but true that's some people's idea of entertainment

ShoesHaveSouls · 28/10/2017 11:32

My black cats are amazing - they are indeed mini panthers Grin

I wasn't stroppy with OP, I genuinely hadn't heard of a link between Mischief night and hurting cats. But I suppose some sick buggers will just hurt cats Sad

I had heard of Mischief Night, but I always thought it originated from from the sort of 'jolly' japes by public schoolboys, throwing eggs and whatnot.

Ollivander84 · 28/10/2017 11:40

Mine is in the minute the light starts going because of the cat killer. I don't have a cat flap so when he's in, he's in
And how anyone could be scared of him Confused I have no idea Grin he's a massive soft pudding. Luckily if anyone tried to approach him he legs it screaming

Just a friendly reminder...
ColinCreevy · 28/10/2017 12:02

emily he was executed in London..

I've never heard of Mischief night but we don't really do Halloween in a big way in my area either. We have 2 black and white cats who tend to be in when it's getting darker earlier and cold, thankfully.

daisypond · 28/10/2017 12:12

Mischief Night was a big thing when I was young - in the 1970s. I grew up in Yorkshire. I've never heard of the cat thing, though.

diddl · 28/10/2017 16:43

I thought that Guy Fawkes was born in York.

That he was also known as Guido?

SpareChangeDownTheSofa · 28/10/2017 16:53

Thanks to those who believe me :)

I'm from the North West and also call it ''Mizzy Night'' but its the night before Halloween, strange how its different in different places. We always thought of it as the older kids have the 30th and the young ones have the 31st.

Loving all of the pictures of your moggys!
Baba I'm glad to hear your poor cat was okay, harming cats with fireworks has become increasingly common sadly :(

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Marmite27 · 28/10/2017 17:03

Mischief night is the 4th of November and consisted of mounting raids on bonfire piles in neighbouring villages when I was a lass. (West Yorkshire)

BulletFox · 28/10/2017 17:25

I'll need to dry out her litter tray and bring it inside but yes, good idea about keeping her in for a while

NotAPuffin · 28/10/2017 19:03

We're in Ireland and don't have mischief night, but we've always kept our cats in for a few days around Halloween. Between sparklers, fireworks and bonfires (and really nasty people!) there's just too much risk.

Thankfully these days they're too old and lazy dignified to be bothered by having to stay in in the warm!

ZuzuMyLittleGingersnap · 28/10/2017 19:39

Emily,

Was scrolling too fast and must have missed part of your earlier post. So sorry to hear about your beloved cat: how horrible. You're right: some twisted weirdos really do get their kicks from animal abuse. And cats are too often their target.

Which even the cat-haters should be concerned about, because evidence grows ever stronger for links between violence towards them (or any type of animal), and violence towards humans.

Lighter note: Here's Joffrey, the winner of "Supercat Hero" in yesterday's National Black Cat Day competition.
(Eh? He's black and white!)

mathanxiety · 28/10/2017 19:50

MadMags Sat 28-Oct-17 07:39:09
Mathanxiety: It's a British Isles tradition that emigrated to the US and is now making the return journey to Britain, but it has always been going strong in Ireland.
MadMags: Where in Ireland? I've lived all over and have family all over and have literally never heard of it

Yikes, I am not making myself clear at all.

I am talking about Hallowe'en, which was always a thing in Ireland though it died out in Britain, thanks to the Reformation I suspect.

In Ireland long ago Hallowe'en itself used to be an occasion of hooliganism and mayhem. There was never any Mischief Night per se.

Even when I was young, my parents, who were both from rural areas, were suspicious of Hallowe'en - when they were young it was a night when damage was sometimes done to farmyards, animals, winter crops, hen houses, etc. It took a bit of convincing to let them allow me and my sisters out with everyone else in our Dublin neighbourhood to collect apples and nuts (this was all that was going in the 70s - the chocolate and sweets are recent arrivals). They were even a bit Hmm when we made Hallowe'en masks in our convent primary school, in 1973-4-5.

My thought was that maybe this tradition of hooliganism eventually became 'Mischief Night' elsewhere (not in Ireland). In Britain the mischief seems to have become associated with Guy Fawkes night, which replaced Hallowe'en as a night of bonfires and fun for the young.

In the US, Hallowe'en used to be a very rowdy affair too, until the 60s/70s, and there are still parts where 'Mischief Night' is a thing separate from Hallowe'en.

mathanxiety · 28/10/2017 19:59

Diddl - He was known as Guido while fighting for the Spanish against the Dutch in the Eighty Years War. Was born in York.

MadMags · 28/10/2017 20:05

Your parents were the exception then math compared to the norm that I know of from before the 70s.

ButchyRestingFace · 28/10/2017 20:13

even more dangerous with the M25 cat killer

Da fuck.

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ZuzuMyLittleGingersnap · 28/10/2017 20:27

Butchy,

Caution: obviously contains distressing details
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/croydon-cat-killer-m25-forensic-science-lab-animals-crime-arrogen-veterinary-forensics-a7973596.html

There are no words, really.

mathanxiety · 28/10/2017 20:32

The old Hallowe'en traditions also included a barmbrack, playing snap apple, a costume party of some kind, colcannon for dinner (all took place at home) but bands of youths would also roam around wearing masks and knocking on doors looking for food in exchange for songs or some performance. My mum (aged 84) recalls that the roving bands had a reputation for being inclined to lawlessness. There was often a bottle or two of poitín accompanying them. The youths would light a bonfire in the local towns. It was considered a towny thing.

My grandparents' generation used to sprinkle holy water on farm animals at Hallowe'en. There was definitely an element of the pagan Samhain feast to Hallowe'en lore and how it was celebrated in their locality. It was considered a time when spirits of the dead or creatures from the otherworld like the sí (fairies) wandered the earth and you had to keep your guard up.

carefreeeee · 28/10/2017 21:23

Mischief night is a thing in Liverpool. It's on 30th Oct and I will not be going out after dark unless in the car. Many shops have age restrictions on eggs and flour (won't sell to under 18s) at this time of year. Being hit by an egg might sound minor but they are hard and it feels like a stone. Throwing fireworks at people also is popular.

user1467976192 · 29/10/2017 08:18

The sad thing about people that kill cats is in all honesty I know if Georgie escapes from the house he will be ok. He is an expert hider and won’t approach people. On the other hand his sister just wants love and affection from everyone she meets. She would probably go to someome who intended to harm her, most likely purring

AccidentalyRunToWindsor · 29/10/2017 08:55

@Babababababybel23 that made my blood run cold, your poor puss 😿

AccidentalyRunToWindsor · 29/10/2017 09:01

Thankyou @SpareChangeDownTheSofa for the reminder though. My mogs are in before dark now as the M25 cat killer struck twice close to me (I’m not in London) anything that raises awareness is good in my book.

I’m off to track down my cats now and give them all a hug.

Sarahrellyboo1987 · 29/10/2017 17:38

I think you're absolutely fine to remind people.
Kids do stupid things and unfortunately where I live there were a few cat deaths around Halloween!

Sarahrellyboo1987 · 29/10/2017 17:40

@Mulch that's awful! Her poor cat - why are people so cruel

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