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To ask what exactly is wrong with a '1950 s ' style education .

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mountford100 · 24/10/2017 15:04

I have just come across a thread on the Secondary Education board that suggests a couple of grammar schools are like travelling back to the 1950 s !

Does that mean they expect pupils to behave (not answer back) , work to their best of the ability do their homework, wear correct uniform at all times.

A school that has little or no time for a child seeking excuses as to why they can not abide with basic rules.

Why does there has to be a mitigating reason as why a child misbehaves other than just bad behaviour.

I am extremely grateful i was educated in a grammar school operating with many 1950 s principles (this is despite being near the bottom of the year) .

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mountford100 · 28/10/2017 16:45

For the record my SPAG suffers greatly if am rushing or not wearing glasses ! This was proved when i was tested for Irlen's Syndrome.

Therefore when i use colored filters, my reading speed improves by 40% and similarly my comprehension skills improve significantly.

Yeah so when i am doing two things at once and not concentrating twice hard as other people i am sure my punctuation , use of capital letters and grammar goes awry.

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BertrandRussell · 28/10/2017 17:02

"The inspection report noted that the school had significant strengths in helping children from disadvantaged and socially fractured families achieve "

Then your sister should have been proud of her part in that success.

mountford100 · 28/10/2017 17:20

I am sure she was proud of being part of that report. However, whether technically the spit made contact with her should not trivialize what is a serious assault .

I think my sister will go back in to teaching and hopefully it will be in non selective school . This is because i know from her personal perspective she gets the most satisfaction from getting a D grade pupil a C grade .

However, it may be in a private or grammar school where she comes back to teaching due to behavioural issues .

I know there is bad behaviour in private and grammar schools. Though that is likely to be more in nature to what was witnessed 19 years ago in more standard secondary schools.

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BertrandRussell · 28/10/2017 17:24

Well, fortunately she will have, one hopes, a better understanding of serious learning difficulties than you have. Because your attitude is, as it always has been, deeply depressing.

Moussemoose · 28/10/2017 17:35

I work with students who have a range of learning difficulties, SEN and emotional and behavioural issues. I deal with the type of issue your sister faced regularly.

Some young people have difficulties that absolutely impact upon their behaviour. Unlike in the 1950s when these students were expelled and dismissed as uneducable we try to work with them. Or some of us do.

And because you seem to miss the point, I too am dyslexic. I am writing this through a coloured filter. I don't use my dyslexia as an excuse.

Gilead · 28/10/2017 17:37

No Mousse trying to spit on a teacher is not a learning difficulty, than hiding beyond a difficulty is wrong.
Do tell us about your experience with learning difficulties and the students that present with them. I'm fascinated. I know plenty of students who may well spit at a teacher, for all sorts of reasons and none of them aggressive.
I have to say Mountford, I'm getting a bit frustrated with your seeming inability to see differences in others, whilst protecting yourself in every bloody interminable post...

mountford100 · 28/10/2017 18:30

I am not very well liked am i ?

I think i am going to go to the bottom of the garden and eat worms.

I can spit when i talk . I know the difference between passive and aggressive though .

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Vitalogy · 28/10/2017 18:35

Did they used to encourage critical thinking instead of robotic parroting.

Gilead · 28/10/2017 19:13

Mountford, I'm sure you're a lovely person in real life. You're being blooming' frustrating though!

mountford100 · 28/10/2017 21:26

Both my sisters have been saying i was frustrating for 20 years. Its my turn to look after Mum and Dad tonight me and younger sister take it in turns .

Mum is recovering from both Lung and Brest Cancer and dad is in early stage dementia . One day there is nothing wrong with him , the next day he forgets where he put the newspaper 30 minutes before! This is very upsetting because you are attuned to him being at his best, So you can get a bit cross with him for forgetting simple things.

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Gilead · 28/10/2017 22:27

If it's any help Mountford, we found that if we treated my stepfather in the same way we treated my dd with AS and ADHD, things were easier. Simple routines without deviation, simple discussions and never more than two things at once to be done. Lots and lots of repetition.
Oh and dd has just yelled no notes, they're no good if you forget they're there!

mountford100 · 28/10/2017 22:35

Thank you Gilead i will bear it in mind..

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