To think this is appalling hypocrisy

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www.express.co.uk/news/uk/865327/Pension-Civil-service-Labour-Robert-Devereux-transport-UK-national-salary

Why should he be allowed to retire at 61 and why such a HUGE pension. It's all right for some isn't it.

brasty I am so glad you said that , because I thought I was going a bit mad , the pension system changed a couple of years ago in the NHS and they increased the retirement age for nurses before a certain cut off to 67 . I think if you had been in the previous plan for a certain number of years then you stuck to the old rules , I missed out by a teeny fraction

I think a lot of it depends on what type of role you have/had, and when you joined. I know we had a number of NHS doctor clients who's retirement age was 60. I think local authorities have not been part of the Civil Service Pensions group for many years, if they ever were - Civil Service to me is central government.

Yes that's true brasty and it really pisses me off that the terms are changed like that particularly when I moved a private pension into it to buy extra years.

I think Civil Service pension accrues at 1/60 to Local Gov't 1/80.

I have some pension under the old rules which I can get at 60, but vast majority at 67. It is actually a few friends in private companies who have the best pension schemes.

SloeSloeQuickQuickGin Oh I wish there was a piss myself like button.

I retired age 50 from the Civil Service after 33 years full time service.
Lump sum enough for large house deposit, monthly pension enough to live on till State Pension kicks in at 67.
Lots of my colleagues jumped at the chance to retire at 50+, but the final salary pension scheme is dead now I believe.

I've met Robert Devereux several times and I'd be hard pressed to find a senior civil servant with as much comittment and passion for a job as he has. You can't underestimate the dedication you have to have to succeed in the SCS.
Yeah dedicated to screwing the poor, i.e Universal Credit, an evil that hasn't yet shown its entire awfulness.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/civil-servant-who-presided-over-universal-credit-programme-accused-of-a-litany-of-failures-by-mps-8810223.html

Surely you should be happy therefore that he is retiring then OP. If you don't like him and all that.

Retiring at a massive expense to the taxpayer. I don't dislike him user, I don't know him. I just don't agree with the huge pensions given to retiring civil servants etc. I thought they were supposed to be a thing of the past.

What on earth led you to believe that Civil Servants are supposed to be a thing of the past????

Do you know the role of the Civil Service at all?

Civil servants a thing of the past? .....I was on about huge bonus's and payoffs.

He's retiring to take a private pension that he's paid money into. There is no extra taxpayers expense here. And no hypocrisy.

Of course it's at taxpayers expense, massively so too. There's no way he's paid so much into his pension as to get that kind of money. And yes i believe there is hypocrisy there. He was instrumental in laying the foundations for the raising ages in state pensions.

Yes i know that he was only serving the government but i still find it hypocritical that someone so heavily involved in raising the age for state pensions is able to retire so comfortably at 61 because of such a huge tax payer funded pay off.

Civil Servants have to do the bidding of their "masters" i.e. politicians. The relevant minister will tell the civil servant what the policy is, the civil servant then has to get it implemented whatever they may think about the policy from a personal viewpoint.

If he has done his 40 years service (left uni at 21 then straight into the civil service) then he will be on the maximum possible for a top level civil servant. I know of quite a few people in private industry who can no longer pay into their pension because they have reached the "cap" and who are in what would be considered lower level jobs than being the equivalent level as the CEO of a multinational company.