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To think with mothers like this it is not surprising certain children don't get top grades at school

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mountford100 · 19/10/2017 14:27

Pupil who dyed her hair BLUE to 'boost her confidence after being bullied' is put into isolation by school.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/pupil-who-dyed-hair-blue-13772751

The parents can't wait until the media contact them, it is like all their christmases have come together when the papers bother to contact them.
Then you say the same picture of a girl/boy dressed in their school uniform surrounded by the parents enjoying the adulation of the media.

This is more important to these people than the fact their child has been excluded from school for stupid and disruptive behaviour . The behaviour is not just encouraged by these parents but actively facilitated (who gives the child the money to have silly haircuts shoes trousers etc). The child's parents will then declare they don't want their children ending up like them. However, they are totally complicit in why their child will end up with poor with their distain for the authority of school rules.

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ArcheryAnnie · 19/10/2017 15:36

Where's the idiot father in all of this, then?

strugglingtodomybest · 19/10/2017 15:42

It pisses me off that schools care more about children's appearances than they seem to do about teaching them half the time. No wonder we're bringing up such self conscious kids.

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mountford100 · 19/10/2017 15:43

This school is nearly next door to Harrop Fold school and probably is almost identical in facing the obstacles to achievement they face.
The school really does not need obstructive students wasting time and resources, one teacher no doubt wasted watching over her while in isolation.

The reality is despite what some posters like to say is there are two types of secondary school that don't have Uniform. They are either extremely 'posh' or schools we would run a million miles from.

Therefore bearing in mind 99% of girls don't attend St Paul's Girls School uniform requirements are here to stay.

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blanklook · 19/10/2017 15:43

If bullying was tackled properly at primary school and within society and expected behavior towards all other people was promoted as a value, the secondaries wouldn't have as much trouble.

However, the school did comment within that article and say their "strict" dress code is enforced and their reason for it is to have pupils present themselves as they would if they were working in a business environment.

Our school allows dyed hair, make up, jeans, trainers, not bothering with the blazer, etc etc. It makes life do much more pleasant
Easier for the kids maybe when they are there , but not easier for them to cope with rules and regs in the workplace when they leave if they don't want to do FE.

It's not only about physical appearance, but all the "individuals" only ever publicise that part of it.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/10/2017 15:45

The reality is despite what some posters like to say is there are two types of secondary school that don't have Uniform. They are either extremely 'posh' or schools we would run a million miles from.

Third type; quite a large chunk of the rest of the world. Now I know they are savages and colonials but they seem to cope...

Ceto · 19/10/2017 15:48

The school really does not need obstructive students wasting time and resources, one teacher no doubt wasted watching over her while in isolation

Once again, OP, how does coloured hair obstruct anyone? Particularly when worn in the way shown in the pictures so that hardly any of the colour shows. And it's 100% the school's choice that they are wasting time and resources by putting this child in isolation, they could avoid it very easily by leaving the child alone to get on with her lessons.

Droogan · 19/10/2017 15:49

That's not true, Mountford. My DC goes to a mixed but mostly middle class comp. The school is completely relaxed about the uniform. Loads of children wear black leggings or jeans, very short skirts, make up, black trainers, and some have dyed hair (eg dyed pink). I've seen
a beard too. Nobody says anything. It simply doesn't matter.

Ceto · 19/10/2017 15:49

The reality is despite what some posters like to say is there are two types of secondary school that don't have Uniform. They are either extremely 'posh' or schools we would run a million miles from.

Wholly untrue. And if you extend your sample size to Europe and the US, you would find that the vast majority of schools don't have uniform, yet manage not to be either posh or something that "we" (who's "we", by the way?) would run away from.

MrLovebucket · 19/10/2017 15:50

I love bold colours in hair but that looks shite. It's fading out badly, going green in patches and the condition of it is dreadful.

brasty · 19/10/2017 15:50

I am amazed at the idiots on here judging the girl, her mum and grandmother by the way they look. Calling someone an idiot on the basis of how they look, says far more about you, than them.

Ceto · 19/10/2017 15:51

Easier for the kids maybe when they are there , but not easier for them to cope with rules and regs in the workplace when they leave if they don't want to do FE.

For goodness sake, not that old chestnut. What is it about English kids that they allegedly can't cope with rules and regulations unless they are made to wear pointless uniform? How on earth do you imagine that children all over the world manage to cope despite never having to wear uniform throughout their childhood?

SapphireSeptember · 19/10/2017 15:52

whiskyowl I think I'm in love with you for that comment!

Er, actual contribution to thread... Meh, can't be bothered. The title alone was enough to put me off. Considering someone who used to work with me was allowed to dye their hair rainbow colours I don't see why school rules are so petty.

Mustang27 · 19/10/2017 15:52

Well said Brasty

Droogan · 19/10/2017 15:53

It only takes a day or 2 to get used to wearing smarter clothes when you start work. How do you think everyone who starts work after 3 years at university copes? And all French and German school leavers? They find our uniforms really bemusing.

dingdongdigeridoo · 19/10/2017 15:55

Going to the local paper was stupid. I’ve seen this posted on Facebook with lots of nasty, sneering comments about chavs, calling them slags, all sorts. Plus from now until the end of time, if anyone Googles her then this story will come up. It’s going to make her look like a troublemaker to potential employers.

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mountford100 · 19/10/2017 15:56

Droogan. You child's school must be one of only a handful in the UK that does not have any school uniform !
I am aware that most of Europe or USA don't have school uniform.

However, many of the Magnet Schools in america require their pupils to wear a sweatshirt with a logo and black trousers/skirt . So that is a Uniform !

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dingdongdigeridoo · 19/10/2017 15:57

It’s weird that so many people argue uniforms are good because they prepare us for work. I’ve worn jeans and trainers to work for years, and only know one person who works in a suit everyday.

Lemonnaise · 19/10/2017 15:57

The reality is despite what some posters like to say is there are two types of secondary school that don't have Uniform. They are either extremely 'posh' or schools we would run a million miles from

My DCs school has a strict uniform policy. They have their own(expensive) uniform that can't be bought from a supermarket or cheaper anywhere but it's neither of those ^ you say, but it is strict(which I like).

Mustang27 · 19/10/2017 15:59

What is she like 14?? I didn’t read the article I was too distracted by her hair Hmm.

Also if you are the type of employer that Google’s your staff then judges them on this I think I’d pass on working for you.

Droogan · 19/10/2017 16:00

Our school does have a school uniform. But as long as children wear roughly the right clothes (eg something black on the bottom, something white on the top) everyone's happy. I'm all for that approach. We should be focusing on the stuff that matters.

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mountford100 · 19/10/2017 16:00

The mother is an idiot for (A) allowing her to go to school with a color that will get her removed from mainstream classes. (B) For making it look like she actually enjoys the fame of being in a newspaper , for such a pointless and time wasting exercise.

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Getoutofthatgarden · 19/10/2017 16:01

I am amazed at the idiots on here judging the girl, her mum and grandmother by the way they look. Calling someone an idiot on the basis of how they look, says far more about you, than them

Aren't people calling her an idiot because of her attitude and teaching her daughter not to follow the rules because they don't apply to her?

TheFairyCaravan · 19/10/2017 16:01

I think her hair looks awful. It's badly done, patchy and in bad condition.

When you send your child to school you agree to whatever dress/hair code they have. You can't just turn round and say 'but you didn't do X so I'm not doing Y'. Life isn't like that.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/10/2017 16:03

So the school system has taught you slavish adherence to rules, intolerance and how to be judgemental. Awesome!

How do we teach independent thought, empathy and critical thinking. Because those are sadly lacking. And much more useful in most workplaces.

dingdongdigeridoo · 19/10/2017 16:04

I looked it up and about 70% of employers admit to googling applicants or looking at their social media. That’s a lot of employers to not work for.

I often get googled when taking on new clients as examples of my work are online. So it’s not unusual.

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