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To think my "friend" needs to back off

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Backoff85 · 16/10/2017 05:36

NC because very outing. Feel a mixture of anger and guilt.

The back story is a year and a half ago I became close friends with a guy, N. He happened to be in an open relationship and I was reluctantly brought onside. Our "strand" of the relationship only lasted 2 months because I began to get very frustrated with what I saw as hypocrisy and unfairness. It doesnt matter though, because after just 2 months of this I moved to the end of the country and things ended between us.

Fast forward to last week: for the first time in a year I'm back in town and have loads of people to see. I've been with my DP, who I very much love, for a year and things are going great. Me and N have been in casual infrequent contact for the year, friendly contact but not very deep.

N announces that he has taken all the days off I'll be here off from work. I find that really intrusive and disrespectful actually, as if I didnt have anyone else to see.

On the first day I got here, I spent all afternoon and evening hanging out but had to cut the evening short at 11pm because I felt awful and was coming down with something - he did thia reallt sad puppy dog face that made me feel so bad.

The next day, a friend was coming to join me in town overnight so we could catch up. We included him on our night out but even then he spent tue whole day pressuring me to meet earlier. I met her off the train at 3pm and at 5.30pm he was like "shall we meet for dinner now at the indian?" I didnt see his message til 7 and replied to apologise and he said "no worries, shall we meet there in half an hour?"

It's like...arrrrgh its fucking Saturday evening and im here for 4 days, let me fucking breathe!

So Saturday the 3 of us went out and finished at 5am - he was gutted when I sent him home but didnt say anything :-/ On sunday morning i felt like an absolute wreck and it wasnt a hangover...my illness had intensified since I'd stupidly tried to push through it since i was visiting. So yesterday i woke up with it having developed into a fever and like a chest infection. I felt absolutely awful. Nevertheless, he expressed sympathy but asked if i wanted to meet up. Obviously i said no.

Today is my last full day and i wanted to spend it having a long lunch with my closest friend here, then walking around by myself just letting my mind reminisce, going to a few independent shops here and very possibly if i feel.well enough get a bus for early tea with another friend before going home early.

But last night he's texted two plans for tomorrow (both of which involve the great outdoors - sorry but i dont know exactly how many times i have to be fucking clear about the fact i am ill).

Im torn. On the one hand this is someone i used to be close to and i used to hold hom dear and feel i should make an effort to "honour" that friendship.

On the other hand theres the sickness thing, but more than that, i feel very angry, insulted and almost diarespected that he seema to be pushing his agenda on me. His girlfriend (the one who wanted them to be in an open relationship) has had countless lovers the past year and he hasnt, so....
What pisses me off is he knows because ive been very clear that i am in love with my DP and we dont do open relationships.

I honestly have no idea if N is hassling me out of his friendship feelings or romantic feelings, i genuinely couldnt say - possibly a blurring of both.

But im angry ive felt hounded during this stay, and that my last day may inevitably be spent bowing to the wishes of a persistent man IYSWIM.

Any thoughts? :-^

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CiderwithBuda · 16/10/2017 09:35

Have you sent him a text saying you can't meet today?

If he is a good friend he will understand. If he is a demanding, sulky, petulant boychild he won't. And if so do you want to be friends?

Intercom · 16/10/2017 09:39

You are not a "bad friend"! He sounds selfish, manipulative and actually rather creepy. He is not being respectful to you at all. A decent friend would say "Would you like to meet up? Which day are you free?", not try to guilt-trip you into meeting up every day when you have many other things to do. A decent friend would not pressurise you to do outdoorsy things when you're ill. I agree with MattBerrysHair that he is trying to get you into bed, as he thinks he might be able to persuade you (make you feel guilty enough to do what he says). He doesn't actually seem to care about you, or your boundaries, wishes or feelings. My advice would be to ditch him as a "friend", never mind anything else! And do not spend a single minute feeling guilty about it.

Backoff85 · 16/10/2017 09:42

Thanks for your responses, I suppose when I compare his behaviour to that of my very good friend who I'm seeing for lunch, I realise the difference (Her: "Sorry to hear you're ill, let me know if you want me to come round with medicine/food and text me if/when you want yo meet tomorrow but no pressure!").

Its actually ridiculous when i think about it and I need to man up. I also think he's selfish and manipulative.

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whatathingtosay · 16/10/2017 09:52

Why can't you just say: "I'm really sorry to miss you but I have a ton of people I've already arranged to see this weekend. It would be great to catch up another weekend in future, though." Then don't make the arrangement.

It sounds to me like he's treating you being in town like a booty call.

diddl · 16/10/2017 09:59

He's not a friend by the sounds of things.

If you didn't ask him to take days off whilst you're there then more fool him!

That's entirely his decision & you shouldn't feel bad about only seeing him if/when you want to.

AbsentmindedWoman · 16/10/2017 10:01

How on earth did you reluctantly fall into a relationship with him? What?

He may be an annoying asshole but honestly, if you keep agreeing to stuff and seeming as if you're happy enough -including all the meeting up on this visit - how do you expect him just to know you don't want to see him?

I have to say, I don't understand this behaviour at all. You mention you're worried about being a bad friend - that's also ridiculous, you don't owe him any sort of relationship. Any friendship has to be one that works for you, too - not just the other person. So if you enjoyed seeing him for lunch or a few drinks, great. You don't then automatically owe him x amount of time.

cordeliavorkosigan · 16/10/2017 10:07

"Ovary up", as it were, and tell him!
If you can't say no to people you'll forever be driving people around, going for lunches you don't want to go to, baking cakes for people or taking care of their DC for free, or whatever. Focus on how he makes you feel, don't worry so much about how you might make him feel! Text him now and tell him you are not well and will not be meeting up with him today.

ArchchancellorsHat · 16/10/2017 10:21

It seems like wanting to be a good friend to this guy got you into a 'relationship' you didn't even want so he could play tit for tat with his girlfriend. He's not been a good friend to you.

How about just telling him no, you feel hounded, and being a good partner to your current bf?

Therealslimshady1 · 16/10/2017 10:26

You ask how much clearer you need to be ...

By repeatedly saying you are ill, when you actually just don't fancy meeting up, you are being the opposite of clear.

He interprets this as "I am ill, otherwise I'd love to see you"

You just need to be straight

HerOtherHalf · 16/10/2017 10:29

My instinct s that he sees you as a potential booty call. He managed to persuade you to be his bit on the side before (regardless of the open relationship, that's what you were) and that makes you sexually liberal in his eyes. He's already prized the lid off the honey pot before so it should pop off easily a second time, is the logic. Just be blunt and tell him to fuck off. You owe him nothing and socialising with an ex like him is just going to risk jeopardising your current relationship, even if you have no intention of anything happening.

TheVanguardSix · 16/10/2017 10:32

What are you doing OP???
Sorry to be harsh. I used to be like you. A mug. Stop it. Just stop.

This guy shouldn't even be in your life.
He's totally creepy and invasive.
Why are you willingly giving so much time and energy to this ex? I don't get it. What's in it for you?
You should really cut contact.

TheVanguardSix · 16/10/2017 10:34

HerOtherHalf is spot on.

Respect your current partner and get this oddball oy of the way.

SparklyMagpie · 16/10/2017 10:38

Have you text him OP? You need to nip this!

All you gave to say is " I already have plans so I won't be seeing you "

Doesnt have to be hard

CoraPirbright · 16/10/2017 10:46

You only have a finite time on this stay and you have seen him plenty already - its not like you haven't squeezed him in at all so dont be made to feel bad. I think I am inclined to agree with others - he thinks there might be some sex in it for him. Just be straight!! Send him a text "lovely to catch up with you the other day but I have plans today and am then heading home. Look forward to catching up again when I am next in town". Then, when you are next in town either dont let him know or make firm plans eg lunch between 12 and 2 on x day and thats it!!

I understand what you are saying about it being a shame that you have to take this sort of stand but he is pushy and thick-skinned and unfortunately people like this need one or two metaphorical 'hard slaps' to stay within the bounds of what is acceptable to you and your boundaries.

Mittens1969 · 16/10/2017 10:46

I agree with PPs that you need to cut this ‘friend’ out of your life. He has only one thing he wants and that’s to get you into bed. He talked you into becoming part of his ‘open’ relationship’ before and he thinks he can do that again.

TheLegendOfBeans · 16/10/2017 10:52

He's not your friend. He obviously wants to keep you close to either "just" shag you or to use you as a "level up" against his gf who seems the more "open" of the two.

IME:
Stand wellllllllllllllll back from being sexually involved with
a) friends
b) anyone in an open relationship - hassle central.

And I'm being judgey but I hope you've been upfront with your now partner about your history with N and aren't "hiding" the contact as lying by omission is just that - lying.

Don't let the past bugger about with your future. N sounds like he needs to be swerved for the foreseeable.

astoundedgoat · 16/10/2017 11:00

He's not your friend. He wants you to have sex with him while you are here. He has precisely no other motivation, because if he actually liked you or thought of you as a friend, he would be more concerned about the fact that you don't feel well than getting his leg over.

You don't need to feel any anxiety about just NOT texting him back at all. If he texts you when you're back home and asks WTF, just reply and say "I said I was both busy and unwell. It was v odd that you just weren't getting it at all, so I stopped replying."

kateandme · 16/10/2017 11:13

from your last post op you seemed to be starting to see the light.think and keep reminding yourself of that comparison to him and a friend.his behaviour is beyond off and wrong frankly.
be upfront.if he takes it to heart then sad ok but these things have to happen.expecially If someone is behaving like he is.
how kind you need to be I'm not sure.becasue on your behalf if I was ur friend with you id want to confront him for you and tell him to leave you alone!
could you just say.hi N listen ive love catching up but for my last moments here I really want to have some me time with my home and memorys etc and have a few errands I must run before I get back.thanks for the great time.til next time...

Shouldileavethedogs · 16/10/2017 11:19

How does you DP feelnaboit you meeting up daily with an ex

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 16/10/2017 11:21

He's angling for a shag. Pretty disrespectful.

sonjadog · 16/10/2017 11:37

This isn't real friendship on his side. He has some sort of obsession with you. I don't know what his motivations are, but that isn't really important. Real friendship is built on trust and respecting space. It isn't built on one person totally monopolizing the other person's time and space. A real friend is the good friend that you are seeing for lunch. She wants to see you, but is accepting that she is not the one and only thing in your life. That is the standard you should hold your friends too. Don't go along with this guy's behaviour. Put the boundaries in place that give you space to see other people, have other friendships and activities. If he is just a bit intense and needy, he will back off and respect your boundaries, if he doesn't, well then you might need to rethink the whole friendship.

sonjadog · 16/10/2017 11:38

Btw, if you aren't good at confrontation, this doesn't even require that much. Just reply and say sorry, you are meeting other friends today before you leave and won't have time to meet him, but hopefully you can meet up again next time you are in town. And the ignore further messages.

Jaxhog · 16/10/2017 11:49

He's almost stalking you! Whatever he wants, it isn't a normal 'friendship'. I'd tell him no for your last day and then quietly drop him as a 'close' friend.

ReanimatedSGB · 16/10/2017 11:51

He's a creepy fucker - the sort who gives people in open relationships a bad name. (Does he wear a fedora or play the ukelele by any chance?)

Text him back with 'I've seen enough of you this weekend, bye.' and then ignore any other approaches from him. You don't owe him anything.

Backoff85 · 16/10/2017 11:52

He just texted about meeting up today. Here's what i replied:

No, I'm going to have lunch with (very good friend) and then do a bit of shopping. I don't think its appropriate to spend more time together, if I put myself in (DP)'s shoes and the roles were reversed, I wouldn't be happy with the situation. It was great seeing you and will be glad to hang out again when I'm next in town!

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