To be shocked at the rising price of food?

[AbsentmindedWoman]

I do a fair bit of my grocery shopping at Aldi and Lidl, but dip into all the big stores very regularly as well for certain items I like when they are on offer to stock up, and also for yellow sticker bargains.

My bill has gone up by about a quarter in the last six months or so for the same products. Aldi and Lidl don't seem all that cheap anymore - although to be fair I don't know what doing my 'main' shop at Sainsbury's or Tesco or Morrisons.

I'm a little shocked at just how quickly the prices are going up. I knew they were going to rise but kind of expected a much more gradual increase. Silly me.

Has anyone else felt like this? Or does anyone else feel alarmed at not knowing when prices will level out and slow down?

@HelenaDove 2 Sisters website says "Our customers include Aldi, Asda, Co-op, KFC, Lidl, Marks & Spencer, Morrison's, Sainsbury's, Tesco and Waitrose" but as well as the chicken they supply frozen, ambient & other chilled stuff.

They don't specify who buys what from them, but certainly the Guardian reports I've seen don't mention Asda or Morrisons

Paid £35 for a large leg of lamb to feed eleven of us tomorrow Meat, on the whole, has got very expensive

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/14/rice-become-expensive-due-disastrous-eu-import-rules/

Can't blame this one on Brexit though!!!

Dora Don't you buy maple syrup for example, or Bourbon? Do you buy cranberries at Christmas? All are North American products.

I won't buy some EU 'regulated' food like Foie Gras or veal. Lots of eggs were withdrawn here recently becuase of contaminant in the feed iirc, and that is supposed to be 'regulated' by the EU. Don't kid yourself the EU is good at this - stuff gets covered up, like foot and mouth for example.

Ah i see Its been a while since my relative worked there So what i was told recently must be out of date.

It might still be right that they don't get chicken from 2 Sisters (just other stuff)

I dread ending up with chorine washed chicken and those white eggs that need to be stored in the fridge.

Greece for example were in find shape before the euro,

No they were not. There were serious and longstanding structural issues in Greek governance and economy, going back as far as the 1970s and 80s.

Greece was basically a clientalist state, with weak governments always opting for the easy short term answer to any given problem, and nobody with either the will or the political clout to tackle the underlying issues.

The Greek government in 2004 admitted it had cooked the books during the vetting process prior to joining the Eurozone. Greek administrations were hoping that the Euro would spread the risks of Greece's ailing economy around the rest of Europe and essentially enable governments to carry on with doomed policies, failing to grapple with the issues. Though there may have been some pols who hoped that the cushion of the Euro would facilitate reforms to deal with the mess without causing complete collapse of Greek economy and society, the temptation to keep on doing what had got them into the mess in the first place proved too great. Actually, interest rates charged to the Greek government were substantially lower than they had been after joining the Euro, so the temptation was that much stronger, in the absence of political leadership. Money poured in and simply disappeared.

Nobody wanted to deal with the huge problem of tax evasion. There are no votes in that in a state where the middle and upper classes just shrug at the idea of paying taxes. Productivity was and is a huge issue too, but again, a leadership vacuum means this is a hot potato.

We are talking about corruption and gross economic mismanagement in the case of Greece.

All of the problems were paid bare by the financial crisis of 2008 on.

laid bare, not paid bare.

Wait til you see what American butter tastes like, BriechonCheese. Tis very watered down.

HJaWoo Sat 14-Oct-17 23:30:13
Is food really that cheap in the us these days?
Here's a weekly ad for a reasonably priced supermarket near me:
www.petesfresh.com/circular/10112017-10172017-1
These are sale prices on certain sale items.
'Grass fed' top sirloin steak is $17.99/lb. This is a premium item.

At the moment, I can buy American butter for $2.99/lb in Aldi. This is the cheapest I can get.

Surely the withdrawal of contaminated eggs is an example of a regulatory and inspection system that is working?

"Greece for example were in find shape before the euro,"

NO-OOO! Greece's economy was shot from the inside long before!

Thanks for that @mathanxiety, I don't know meat prices but the aldi super six fruit and veg is cheaper than those prices. Usually 39-69p for 750g. Peaches were often 49p for over a lb for imported Spanish ones.

Thanks for that @mathanxiety, I don't know meat prices but the aldi super six fruit and veg is cheaper than those prices. Usually 39-69p for 750g. Peaches were often 49p for over a lb for imported Spanish ones.

This is why your food prices are/will be going up

tompride.wordpress.com/2017/10/13/how-theresa-may-is-being-shepherded-to-a-hard-brexit-by-a-multibillionaire-dubai-based-new-zealand-fund-manager/amp/

Born The Dutch and Belgians knew it was going on and sat on the information...if you Google it, you'll see there have been arrests and a regulatory failure.

@Theworldisfullofidiots
Holy shit
Why is this not in the news

OK, it seems that national officials in Belgium and the Netherlands were slow to activate a fast track EU system for notification of contamination. Not sure how that means the regulatory system is not fit for purpose - any system ever devised can be undermined by non-compliance, and it appears that at least ways of preventing this happening in the future are being addressed (according to the Financial Times, which appeared generally non biased in its reporting). Also, criminal arrests have been made.

I went shopping at Sainsbury's yesterday which according to a lot of posters is an expensive supermarket (I don't think so).

I didn't notice that things had gone up. I did notice that a lot of the fruit and veg (me and DH are vegetarian) were very good prices - 90p for a large cauliflower, 50p for a big pack of green beans, £1 for a pack of tangerines, 75p for a bag of onions.

Heinz baked beans (me and DH don't like any others) were 60p a tin. They are 75p in Tesco, Asda and Morrisons

I buy a lot of Sainsbury's basics and have always been happy with them.

I almost always shop in Sainsbury's but will normally check on mysupermarket.com to see where my shop will be the cheapest - 9 times out of 10 it is Sainsbury's

I certainly dont think sainsburys is overly expensive

Its where i do the bulk of my shopping and is probably the same as tescos

I think most people think that aldi and lidl are normally cheaper

Rufus, people keep saying that to me about Sainsbury's but I know my prices very very well and have attempted a few times to switch to Sainsburys and every single time have been shocked at the mark up...across the board. I wonder is it because you buy brands and brands come in the same price? I buy mostly unbranded at Tesco and find there is often no equilivant in Sainsbury's at all so have to jump 50p-£1 to buy the item at all. Also most general things (fruit veg and meat) are 10-20p more in Sainsbury's.

karate

I think you are exactly right

The vast majority of our stuff is branded

So when we switched our online shop from tesco there wasnt much of a change

We found that with asda, lots of the stuff we preferred they didnt do so we had to switch from them

Oh should say we do buy some own brand stuff

Just not much

Its where i do the bulk of my shopping and is probably the same as tescos

But Tescos is also expensive. Sainsburys and Tesco are expensive. Waitrose and Ocado are very expensive.

Morrisons and Asda are cheaper than all these and Aldi and Lidl cheaper still.

You'd have to shop very selectively at Sainsburys, Tesco, Waitrose or Ocado to not spend at least 10/20% more than at Morrisons, Asda, Aldi or Lidl.

It may only be a few quid a week more, but that adds up hundreds of pounds a year, possibly £1k+ which makes an enormous difference if you don't have a lot of spare money.