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BT 'customer care' is directed more to fobbing you off than addressing the problem

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tormentil · 13/10/2017 17:24

This week's saga with BT has been very, very trying.

Last week my broadband connection got weaker and weaker until there was nothing at all.

Last Friday, I phoned to report the problem. A helpful man somewhere in Dublin said , OK I'll test your line. If you put the phone down I'll phone you back when the test is complete. Half an hour later, he phones me back. Yes, there's a fault on the line and I'll arrange for an engineer.

On Monday, after no further communication, I phone again to see what is happening. This call is routed through India. No, says the member of the customer care team : There's no fault on the line, we've left messages on your phone to say that we're sending a new hub. I have had no messages. I ask about the fault and the promised engineers - no there is no fault, we cannot authorise engineers. I try to get more information, she disappears and the line is cut. I wait half an hour for the call to be returned - it isn't.

I phone again - this time I am routed to Ireland. Oh yes he says, there is a fault. I'll just phone the engineers and get you an appointment booked. When this phone call ends, I have engineers booked for Wednesday morning.

Wednesday morning - no communication from BT, no engineers.

I phone again, again routed through to Ireland. This phone call messes with my head. I ask about the engineer appointment - oh, she says, it wasn't booked. It wasn't booked? No she says, it wasn't booked. No apology, no attempts to rebook or in some way make me feel that the broadband problem is being addressed. She agrees to test the line. This time I am not asked to get off the landline while the test is in process. I've previously been told that this is necessary. I have a suspicion that she isn't even doing 'the test'. There is no fault on the line, she says.

This phone call ends badly. I put the phone down in frustration. There is no agreement that I - and all my surrounding neighbours - have a problem, which is that the broadband is regularly dropping out and disappearing altogether. We don't have a service worth paying for.

We're quite remote and are used to things being less than perfect, but we've had relatively good broadband up until now and know what is possible. In these phone calls it seems that I have been told contradictory things, have been promised things that haven't happened and really wonder how employees of the same company can all offer contradictory information. The same is happening to my neighbours. I've even begun to wonder if the BT customer care phone lines have been hijacked by pranksters.

This evening I have a good connection - but it's a matter of catching it when you can and my neighbours are all having varying degrees of poor service.

So, am I being unreasonable to conclude that BT don't care about the customer and perhaps its' customer care team even compete to see who can be the quickest to get a customer to put the phone down in frustration?

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Allthebestnamesareused · 13/10/2017 17:27

Tweet about their rubbish service on Twitter - they get on to you super quick to sort it out.

Tell them you want to escalate to the next level!

bigbluebus · 13/10/2017 17:38

I think it is fairly common knowledge of MN that BT customer service is sh*t. Our phone line went off once although our broadband was still working. The told me it would be fixed within a week. I told them that was unacceptable as we had a severely disabled person living in the house and it was imperative that we had a working phone line. Our mobile signal is very patchy as we are in a rural area. They decided we could be bumped up the list as a 'welfare' case after I answered numberous questions about the person's medical condition. As a priority case I got to deal with someone in the UK (instead of having to use their chat system to India - as we could only use the internet).

After 48 hours, they decided they would fix the fault. Yes, I had a whole 2 days of stress with no phone line) It took them all of 2 minutes to fix - I know this because they rang me to tell me that the engineer had just arrived at the exchange to deal with my fault. They then rang me again 2 minutes later to tell me he had fixed it. He'd just had to flick a switch and all was well. So why was that going to take a week to fix in the 1st place. There are Openreach vans in our village (in pairs) at least 3 days a week!

The don't care about customers - just profits.

Fleurchamp · 13/10/2017 17:45

I hate BT with a vengeance but DH refuses to change provider (something to do with his work). We also have a very poor broadband service which dwindles to nothing every few months (and I live in a City).
I find their webchat the easiest way to deal with them and I screenshot the important bits so I can refer back to them.
Although the irony of needing a internet connection to use it is not lost on me - I fortunately have a good 4g connection and a cafe with wifi at the end of my road.

I have had engineers out numerous times and it is still crap.

tormentil · 13/10/2017 17:55

I'm starting to wonder how they train their 'customer service' team. Surely anyone who genuinely cares is going to get dispirited very quickly. The whole process seems designed to obstruct.

Contrast Hydro electric- who follow up any telephone interaction with an opportunity to 'rate your experience'. Nothing similar from BT - although it might not be BT but Openreach.

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BTComplaintHelp · 13/10/2017 18:01

Name Changed for this as I work for the company

Raise a complaint - seriously just use the words, BT are bound by ofcom regs and must log a complaint and give you a reference number. The person who logs the complaint will take ownership

If you are not happy speak to a manager, and their manager

If you call from the faulty line ask them to transfer your call to your mobile to run tests - get reference numbers and names

Explain, be factual, not emotive

You can tweet, you can also call the chairmans office

I have reported faults to BT as a user and have used web chat both faults took far longer than they should to be logged, reference gained and engineer out to fix

tormentil · 13/10/2017 18:10

BTComplaintHelp
Thank you, there's obviously a technique. I haven't been allowed to explain anything and I've felt completely stonewalled this week.
I didn't know about webchat. We're a small remote community and we have all had problems over the past fortnight and everyone has been told that there isn't a problem!

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FitnessFad · 13/10/2017 18:12

I feel your pain. I took out a years contract with BT last year, and I used to cry with frustration when I got off the phone to them as we just got nowhere with any of the issues.
I was so relieved when the contract ended a few months ago.
I would never ever go with BT again.

GuntyMcGee · 13/10/2017 18:13

OP this sounds SO familiar!

We had exactly the same problem as you - less than good internet connection but every few months would have complete drop outs, always told there are faults on the line, always told engineers had been to check the cabinet and found no problems.

Sold 'superfast' broadband and told that'd make it better - no difference. We complained weekly and got nowhere until about 6 months later they sent an engineer who told us yes there was a fault and he laughed to say there is no way we'd get superfast broadband because we are too far from the cabinet. We phoned them to cancel and were charged to cancel our contract. We complained and managed to get them to waive the cancellation after months of calls and arguments because they'd sold us a product that they couldn't provide. It took months for them to 'locate' the engineer report which said that superfast isn't supported in our area and that's when they waived the cancellation charge as a 'good will gesture'.

We switched to Sky for TV and broadband and had much better connection. We have had a fault on the line recently and the connection is dropping again but sky customer service is far FAR better than we ever had with BT.
We'll never go back to BT. They're awful and don't give a flying fart whether you've got connection as long as they're getting your money. Terrible company.

tormentil · 13/10/2017 18:19

We're VERY remote - I think BT is our only option.

But on the question of how they train their customer service team. I mean, I couldn't fob people off? It must be horrible to work for too.

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tormentil · 13/10/2017 18:21

GuntyMcGee That is AWFUL! How dare they. No they don't care.

But why don't they care? Is it because so many people don't have another option?

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onemorecakeplease · 13/10/2017 18:27

I've had an awful time with BT lately

Homemadeapplepie · 13/10/2017 18:30

I have had a similar experience in terms of different teams saying different things and no-one giving enough of a shit to try to sort out the problem. I ended up emailing [email protected] (the CEO) and the problem was quickly resolved (he has a complaints team who actually seem to take ownership of problems)

tormentil · 13/10/2017 18:40

Homemadeapplepie
Thanks, CEO email address noted and am now armed for further action.

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Gluetap · 13/10/2017 18:43

CEO email is sadly the only way to resolve anything with BT and any issues are resolved quickly too. It’s such a shame that they don’t sort out their customer service.

AlexaAmbidextra · 13/10/2017 19:57

IMO, BT staff are trained to be as obstructive and unhelpful as possible.

user1497357411 · 13/10/2017 20:01

Our company lines are in the names of people who have previously worked for the company. We recently got a new line. The guy who ordered it did it from my office so I heard him ordering a line for a business. In the end they asked for the name of a contact person. Our new line is now defined as "residential line" in the contact persons name. We got a confirmation letter telling us to call if there was anything wrong with the setup. I have talked to nine people. The guy who claimed to be our key account manager just transferred me to someone else. None of the people whose names are on the lines work for the company anymore.

EngTech · 13/10/2017 20:10

Had a problem with BT last year.

Documented it all, times, dates etc.

Phoned the help line, India, they started to go through the script yet again.

Stopped them dead and asked to be transferred to cancellations team I.e. UK.

Explained saga and asked the obvious question, ie why can't they sort out the b band.

To be fair, they listened and put their hands up, got a discount on rental for next 6 months.

Lesson? Document the saga, if they say no record of chat, ask them to pull the audio records of conversation.

Keep going up the chain of command as well.

Persistence does pay off 😀👍🍷

thedayismine · 13/10/2017 20:18

This is a well timed thread .
We had a very similar saga trying to get our broadband up and running when we moved here last summer .
Recently our service has got worse and worse - over the last week it has been dropping off loads and is very very slow ( even slower than the pathetic super fast speeds we normally expect !)
But I keep saying to DH I don't have the strength to complain as it was so exhausting and frustrating last time !
I actually asked to raise a complaint and the lady said someone would Contact me but they didn't ... am feeling angsty just thinking about it !!
Anyway I will take heed of the advice on here - complain loudly / twitter / CEO and then switch providers asap !
Good luck anyone in the same BT boat

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